What will WE be Like in Heaven?

I think we are slightly drifting from the main topic.. No if I saw him I wouldn't drop everything... Because that way of life doesn't please me. But for many I am sure it would *shrugs* as you are saying once those who should go to heaven have gone, and he asks more, so more must go... Mormons and jw's aren't the only people out there preaching to others... As I was with the jw's for over a year and more... I have the privledge of not getting them knocking on my door, when they invade the area... Bonus.
 
17th Angel said:
I think we are slightly drifting from the main topic.. No if I saw him I wouldn't drop everything... Because that way of life doesn't please me. But for many I am sure it would *shrugs* as you are saying once those who should go to heaven have gone, and he asks more, so more must go... Mormons and jw's aren't the only people out there preaching to others... As I was with the jw's for over a year and more... I have the privledge of not getting them knocking on my door, when they invade the area... Bonus.
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i know we are getting off topic. lol. it is a privelage to not have them knock at your door. i envy you, man. lol. i didn't know you used to be jw. sorry if i offended you.
 
17th Angel said:
Impossible to offend me :) I am (in person) a horribly cold shallow person... I don't tend to get hurt by anything... Mere words ;)
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somehow, i doubt that you are a cold person, a cold person wouldn't even be on this website. you are correct, though, these are just mere words.
 
LeoSalinas22 said:
I agree that we shouldn't bicker at all. like i said, we are just passing thru. people have a major problem if they are content with this life on this earth. i will have you know that i am not content with this place. i don't care how happy or rich i am (even, though i am not) here. God, will destroy all this way of living to make room for His Kingdom.
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I do not think it IS bickering. It is showing unconditional love and regardless of how they feel about you, you have their best interest at heart.

It's kind of like crashing into somebody so they won't go over a cliff.
 
Gen 1:27 tells us? That we were made in the image of god…. And Then in the same chapter if we look to verse 28, what does he tell us again? To fill the earth? Subdue it? Rule over all the creatures of the land, water and air… His intentions were clearly to live on Earth, and to stay on Earth, this is coming from a neutral party…. I claim to be no type of Christian… But, looking at what this book is spelling out, it’s to my opinion saying that is where we are to be… I can’t see where everyone goes to heaven in this book? Or that he intended us to go to heaven? We were perfect, sinless, we weren’t meant to die… Only sin brings death so without sin, we couldn’t possibly die so It would be impossible to go to heaven, hence supporting the first part where he intended for us to live on Earth….. Then you have other logical points to support this… He after all is this great amazing being? Why would he take the pointless long, stupid way round… If we were to live in heaven we would be angels… We are not angels… If angels were to live on Earth they would be humans or something not angels… If a fish was meant to live on land it would be say a fox… If a fox was meant to live in the air it would be an eagle not a fox… You see where this is going? So how I would imagine WE would be in heaven, we wouldn’t…..
 
pattimax said:
I do not think it IS bickering. It is showing unconditional love and regardless of how they feel about you, you have their best interest at heart.

It's kind of like crashing into somebody so they won't go over a cliff.
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you are correct, on this website, it isn't bickering at all, everyone has so much knowledge of God that it isn't funny! but out in the real world, where people that don't have the Word and are hurting, it is a completely different story.
 
17th Angel said:
Gen 1:27 tells us? That we were made in the image of god…. And Then in the same chapter if we look to verse 28, what does he tell us again? To fill the earth? Subdue it? Rule over all the creatures of the land, water and air… His intentions were clearly to live on Earth, and to stay on Earth, this is coming from a neutral party…. I claim to be no type of Christian… But, looking at what this book is spelling out, it’s to my opinion saying that is where we are to be… I can’t see where everyone goes to heaven in this book? Or that he intended us to go to heaven? We were perfect, sinless, we weren’t meant to die… Only sin brings death so without sin, we couldn’t possibly die so It would be impossible to go to heaven, hence supporting the first part where he intended for us to live on Earth….. Then you have other logical points to support this… He after all is this great amazing being? Why would he take the pointless long, stupid way round… If we were to live in heaven we would be angels… We are not angels… If angels were to live on Earth they would be humans or something not angels… If a fish was meant to live on land it would be say a fox… If a fox was meant to live in the air it would be an eagle not a fox… You see where this is going? So how I would imagine WE would be in heaven, we wouldn’t…..
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i knew it, man! lol. you do care. you have His law in your heart. you can never forget this. hold on to it. inscribe the Word on the tablet of your heart. if you read the beginning of Genisis closely, it is prophecy. God isn't done making us yet. we are a progress in work. we have not entered his rest, yet. we are still on the 6th day.
 
That being so... Would you say it is a fair thing to say, that when god makes a rule/law it is meant to be kept and it is serious? And that his will is his will it will not bend, break nor falter? And that when he gives his laws to make sure they are not bent changed or misunderstood they are very strict and simple… Don’t do X, don’t do Y, Do Z! No if’s no but’s…. So when god says “you will live on Earth” (and remember you cannot die, you are perfect, sinless….) Do you think that means You will live on Earth? Or you will live on Earth for awhile then when it suites me, I’ll end your human life and convert you into an angel?

Also… Why is it only me that sees the importance of this sinless life where you cannot die… So you can’t possibly go to heaven… And others seem to simply ignore that part when if this book is all truth that is a vital bit of information…. I don’t get it.
 
17th Angel said:
That being so... Would you say it is a fair thing to say, that when god makes a rule/law it is meant to be kept and it is serious? And that his will is his will it will not bend, break nor falter? And that when he gives his laws to make sure they are not bent changed or misunderstood they are very strict and simple… Don’t do X, don’t do Y, Do Z! No if’s no but’s…. So when god says “you will live on Earth” (and remember you cannot die, you are perfect, sinless….) Do you think that means You will live on Earth? Or you will live on Earth for awhile then when it suites me, I’ll end your human life and convert you into an angel?

Also… Why is it only me that sees the importance of this sinless life where you cannot die… So you can’t possibly go to heaven… And others seem to simply ignore that part when if this book is all truth that is a vital bit of information…. I don’t get it.
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it is very fair to say His will is to be kept and done. look around you, man. the planets, stars, moons don't transgress His law. they are in perfect order. birds, animals hibernate, migrate, mate, give birth in such precise order. trees, fields, bear fruit or vegetables in such precise order. we as mankind, go where we want, do what we want, learn what we want, kill, rape, lust, whenever we want. we are the only ones transgressing His law. He has given us everything, and what do we do in return? we rebel. and its only getting worse. yes, He has every right to destroy us, but he doesn't because of His Christ. praise and glory be to Him from everlasting to everlasting. as far as going to the heavens, i only know of a few that have already went before us. Enoch, some guy that Paul spoke to i don't know which this is in, but i will get back to you on this, Elijah and the Christ. so if they can do it, so can we. but, above all, let His will be done and not ours. Amen.
 
Indeed his will... Not ours. jesus, was really a "special" case... Which is why I would say he obviously returned to heaven.. But I cannot understand if he says your living here... why that would change unless the will of man wished for that rule to be bent, which is impossible being it gods law....

Also, in reference to your previous pst, that states; god is still on his sixth day? Did I misunderstand this part? Because If I haven't I'd like to hear more of how that is so, because I haven't heard anyone claim that before.. Interesting conclusion, also what do you think of Gen 2:2... If that is the conclusion you have?
 
I haven't discussed religion for ages lol... Quite enjoyed it... Thanks for your time patience and answers, I have to go pack up to leave work now... See your replying to the thread... So I'll look out for your answers! Have a good one.
 
LeoSalinas22 said:
but out in the real world, where people that don't have the Word and are hurting, it is a completely different story.
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Knowledge is not a prerequisite for not hurting. Knowledge is a tool. It can be used to deny all happiness and they have the world in their hearts instead.

(please do not misunderstand, I am not advocating ignorance.)
 
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17th Angel said:
Indeed his will... Not ours. jesus, was really a "special" case... Which is why I would say he obviously returned to heaven.. But I cannot understand if he says your living here... why that would change unless the will of man wished for that rule to be bent, which is impossible being it gods law....

Also, in reference to your previous pst, that states; god is still on his sixth day? Did I misunderstand this part? Because If I haven't I'd like to hear more of how that is so, because I haven't heard anyone claim that before.. Interesting conclusion, also what do you think of Gen 2:2... If that is the conclusion you have?
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if you read these Psalms they will give you a clue. it would be better to read them all to gain a better understanding. Psalms 95:11 Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.
Psalms 17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness. i can't remember which epistle but Paul recognizes this. if you dwell on it long enough you will realize that it is the truth. again, look around you. the world is very messed up, right? being in the 6th day makes much more sense than accepting that we are living in the 7th day, being blessed and all, and Him resting when there is still much work to do with His Spirit constantly moving around, and prophecies to be fullfilled. He is not resting yet, man.
 
17th Angel said:
I haven't discussed religion for ages lol... Quite enjoyed it... Thanks for your time patience and answers, I have to go pack up to leave work now... See your replying to the thread... So I'll look out for your answers! Have a good one.
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me, too, got to get my ass back to work. (cracking whip, sound)
 
17th Angel said:
That being so... Would you say it is a fair thing to say, that when god makes a rule/law it is meant to be kept and it is serious? And that his will is his will it will not bend, break nor falter? And that when he gives his laws to make sure they are not bent changed or misunderstood they are very strict and simple… Don’t do X, don’t do Y, Do Z! No if’s no but’s…. So when god says “you will live on Earth” (and remember you cannot die, you are perfect, sinless….) Do you think that means You will live on Earth? Or you will live on Earth for awhile then when it suites me, I’ll end your human life and convert you into an angel?

Also… Why is it only me that sees the importance of this sinless life where you cannot die… So you can’t possibly go to heaven… And others seem to simply ignore that part when if this book is all truth that is a vital bit of information…. I don’t get it.
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You still there Angel?

Anyway, no it's the other way round. We don't go to heaven. Heaven comes to earth. Remember "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth..."? You don't live forever, neither do I. We do. The human race, that is. People always read "we" and "us" in the bible and think it means just them.

I have to go home now. Bye.
 
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