i personally don't believe "islam" teaches any such thing. i think this is a MANMADE INTERPRETATION that is being passed off as islam to people like you. for your information, there are three extant tribes of jews, one being the levites (of which the cohanim are part) and the others being judah and benjamin. these are passed down in the male line but in practice nowadays the vast majority of people from judah or benjamin do not know which tribe they belong to, so all are known as "yisrael". i think this is an example of a C6th perception being projected onto a C21st reality. you do know, abdullah, that jews lived elsewhere in the world than C6th arabia, right? are all jews, then, part of this "tribe"? and of what value is this definition if those who are so defined do not accept it? to my knowledge there are NO jews whatsoever who accept this and, frankly, why should they? where the...this kind of arrogance?
Please keep calm banabrain; I know you may not be happy to hear of the Islamic view regardnig your religion, but the way forward is to discuss/debate and share views respectfully.
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Jews [Yahudi] is a reference to the children of Israel [the Prophet Israel [as], aka, the Prophet Yaqub [as], who was the son of Ibraheem's [as] son, Ishaaq.
Therafter, the Jews may consider themselves to be different tribes, i.e, "the twelve tribe of Israel", denotes twelve different tribes, but waht I meant is that, they are one tribe in the sense that they share a common forefather; Israel [as].
And here is the evidence from the Quran that the religion revealed to all Prophets was Islam, and that all Prophets and their followers were Muslims [this view is the ahle Sunnah view [Sunni Islam/mainstream Islam], as I learnt it from ahle Sunnah Scholars myself]; as explained by Sheikh Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips:
The True Religion
some excerpts from that article:
Islam is the religion which was given to Adam, the first man and the first prophet of Allah, and it was the religion of all the prophets sent by Allah to mankind. The name of God's religion lslam was not decided upon by later generations of man. It was chosen by Allah Himself and clearly mentioned in His final revelation to man. In the final book of divine revelation, the Qur'aan, Allah states the following:
"This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion". (Soorah Al-Maa'idah 5:3)
"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah (God) never will It be accepted of Him" (Soorah Aal'imraan 3:85)
Nowhere in the Bible will you find Allah saying to Prophet Moses' people or their descendants that their religion is Judaism, nor to the followers of Christ that their religion is Christianity.
In fact, Christ was not even his name, nor was it Jesus! The name "Christ" comes from the Greek word Christos which means the annointed. That is, Christ is a Greek translation of the Hebrew title "Messiah". The name "Jesus" on the other hand, is a latinized version of the Hebrew name Esau.
For simplicity's sake, I will however continue to refer to Prophet Esau (PBUH) as Jesus. As for his religion, it was what he called his followers to. Like the prophets before him, he called the people to surrender their will to the will of Allah; (which is Islam) and he warned them to stay away from the false gods of human imagination.
And here are some excerpts from another article:
What is Islam: Islam is not simply the name of a religion, the followers of which are called Muslims. The word 'Islam' is an arabic word which in relation to religion means submission. In simple words Islam means submission to God and to follow the instructions conveyed by the Prophet of one's time e.g.Islam at the time of Abrahim (peace be upon him) was to obey the orders of God and to follow the instructions of the Prophet Abrahim (p.b.u.h). Islam at the time of Moses (peace be upon him) was to obey the orders of God and to follow the instructions of the Prophet Moses (p.b.u.h). Islam at the time of Jesus (peace be upon him) was to obey the orders of God and to follow the instructions of the Prophet Jesus (p.b.u.h). In the same manner, Islam after the arrival of the last Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is to obey the orders of God and to follow the instructions of the Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h).
Who is a Muslim: Muslim is not a name of a particular group but an arabic word for one who submits to the concept of Islam (as mentioned above), also known as 'Believers' e.g. In the era of Prophet Moses (p.b.u.h), people who followed him, believed in all the Prophets and Revelations before him and obeyed the orders of God were Muslims. In the era of Prophet Jesus (p.b.u.h), people who followed him, believed in all the Prophets and Revelations before him and obeyed the orders of God were Muslims. In the same manner, after the arrival of the last Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h), people who follow him, believe in all the Prophets and Revelations before him and obey the orders of God are known as Muslims.
Who is a Non-Muslim: Those who do not submit to the concept of Islam are known as Non-Muslims or Disbelievers e.g. The followers of Moses (p.b.u.h) were Muslims when they followed him and obeyed the orders of God, but when some of them denied the prophet-hood of Jesus (p.b.u.h) who came after Moses (p.b.u.h) and whatever was revealed upon him, they fell in the category of non-muslims, as they breached the concept of Islam. Those who accepted Jesus (p.b.u.h) and what was revealed upon him, remained Muslims. Similarly the followers of Jesus (p.b.u.h) were Muslims when they followed him and obeyed the orders of God, but when some of them denied the prophet-hood of Muhammad (p.b.u.h) who came after Jesus (p.b.u.h) and the revelation which he brought, they fell in the category of non-muslims, as they breached the concept of Islam. Those who accepted Muhammad (p.b.u.h) and the revelation which he brouhgt, remained Muslims. In the same manner the followers of Muhammad (p.b.u.h) are Muslims since they follow him and obey the orders of God, but if they deny the prophet-hood of any Prophet before Muhammad (p.b.u.h) whether it is of Jesus (p.b.u.h), Moses (p.b.u.h) or any other, or deny any of the previous Revelations, or give the status of Prophet to anyone after the last Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) then they will fall in the category of non-muslims due to breaching the concept of Islam.
The Religion Islam
The above views are basically what the mainstream Scholars of islam teach, and if you find one ahle Sunnah Scholar [or even shia Scholar] that differs from the above views, then please let me know
if you mean they "submitted to G!D", that i would agree with. if you mean they all anticipated the Qur'an and the sunnah and accepted the five pillars and so on, then i'm sorry, you're an absolute idiot. presumably noah, who is an islamic prophet, was being islamic when he got drunk? or was that too a jewish "distortion"?
I've been meaning to check these claims out...; does it say in the Torah that past Prophets commited some major sins?; if so, then this is a clear proof of distortions in the Torah, as from the Quran and Sunnah we know that the Prophets were absolutely sinless; there may be some Islamic Scholars that opine that Prophets did commit minor sins [but they were forgiven], but no Islamic Scholar, would say that a prophet commited a major sin in his life.
well, that would be a bit of a problem for the Qur'an, wouldn't it, then, seeing as it completely contradicts itself about the jews, by your own account? on one hand, apparently we're "ahl al-qitab" and all that, but on the other hand, we're also "kuffar". the so-called resolution, that the only "real" jews are those that convert to islam is absolutely ludicrous. i'd laugh if you weren't so scary in your blithe chauvinism which is founded on utter lack of knowledge.
There is no contradiction in that the ahle Kithab could also be kuffar; could the people, to who'm former revelations were revealed, adopt beliefs that constitutes rejection of Gods religion?; if that is possible, then they could be 'ahle kithab' and 'kuffar' at the same time.
Peace
