Shame on you for publicly calling your mother annoying and overbearing here, and for letting her go to voicemail all the time. Honor your mother. Until you become a mother, and even after that... listen to your mother... for some of her words were from God.
LOL- you are so off base about my mother. I said "everyone's mother" as in a general stereotype of the overbearing motherly hen. LOL You really do not read my posts very closely.
My own mother is like a saint to me, and I've said so numerous times on CR. I can't imagine a more wise and lovely woman. We're best friends- my sister, my mother, me, and my aunt (my mother's sister). If you knew me better rather than assuming stuff about me, you'd know that. Heck, if you even read my posts you'd know that.
But thanks anyway for the consistent "shaming." In the absence of an annoying and overbearing mother hen, I can get that fix here on CR from you. LOL
You moderate your way, and I will moderate the overbearing moderators here in my way.
OK. But I'm really at a loss as to how one can really feel shame based on a remark by some virtual stranger on the internet. It's really kind of amusing, your version of moderating.
I submit that you miss the meaning of Jesus there. If there is a plank in my eye, then hearing the words and judgment of others will help me to remove it. I surely won't be removing what I can't see... will I. Therefore I welcome the judgment and I ask you to accept the judgment of anyone and everyone on this thread here... just as you expect others like me to welcome yours.
Actually, no, I don't expect others to welcome it. I don't have many expectations of other people. Secondly, I would put forth I am not missing the meaning. Jesus said do not judge, so you will not be judged (Luke 6:37). That's pretty basic language, to me. And here is the full text about the plank, which makes it pretty obvious that I'm doing a straight forward reading:
Matthew 7:2-4 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
When Jesus said, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." He was judging... real people... with words. Not stones... with words. He judged... with words.
Yep, and he said it is not our place to judge. Jesus could judge people, because in he is the appointed judge for humanity. He is, in Christianity, God (or, alternatively, a specially appointed judge and sacrifice by God).
Likewise I welcome your judgment... I have learned from the exchange in ways that you may not even fathom. You will not stop me from providing my judgment, for I likewise seek the judgment of God.
Of course I won't stop you. Only you can stop you. I'm just pointing out that your choice of how you mete out your judgment sounds mother hen-ish.
Most of you are ignorant of Islam... and that is your plank. Likewise I'm sure Islam4U doesn't understand your perspective of Jesus... and that is his plank. He is likewise here seeking your judgment.
There is a difference between judgement and discussion. Learning and condemnation. At least, I (and many others I know) see a difference.
How do you like them apples moderators.
LOL Yum, crunchy.
Anyone who has judged me on this thread... I wish to reward. Whether I consider your judgment right or wrong, just or unjust, whether a fact or an assumption. If you use the words 'Shame on you' to me... then I wish to reward you even more. Whether I agree or disagree with your judgment, I want to hear it. With those in the USA, I will buy you dinner. With those in other countries, I will send you a token of my appreciation. I also especially want to hear on-topic judgments for the OP and Islam4U. Anyone who posts their heartfelt JUDGMENT on this thread, send me your address in PM, and I assure you that you will receive a token of my heartfelt thanks.
Don't feed the moderators... LOL Couldn't help it- for some reason I got the picture in my head of one of those "Don't feed the bears/coyotes/deer" signs at the National Parks. I'm one of those folks that gets random visuals in relationship to stuff.
Anyhoo, no bribes necessary. Fortunately for you, discussion forums is where everyone comes to discuss.
But thank you again for dinner; it was tasty. And when you're 'round these parts again, perhaps we could all BBQ and go for a hike.
