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Err.... I think you should tell your buddies at the watchtower to rephrase that
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Err.... I think you should tell your buddies at the watchtower to rephrase that
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I understand what you are saying and where you are coming from, but at least here at CR I don't know how you could say this? All of us here, or to be most truthful *most* of us here, wholly accept G-d's channel on earth (the Holy Spirit), and have a great deal to offer, and are not intent on tearing each other down.for mee the internal is something much better . it builds upthe external is nine times out of ten designed to tear down and be in opposition .
with nothing at all to offer.
And also nine times out of ten the external is promoted by those who have rejected Gods visible channel on earth.
One should tread very lightly here mee...I have already shown you some distortions, half-truths and outright falsehoods within your own teachings...IOW, you might want to watch where your finger is pointed, you have three more pointed right back at you.What methods do apostates use to achieve their aim?
They often resort to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehoods.
Ah, the standard misquote that assuages the martyr complex...when in doubt, retreat to "they're picking on me...I must be on the correct path for G-d then."Jesus knew that his followers would be victimized by those who would "tell all kinds of evil lies against" them. (Matthew 5:11, Today’s English Version)
Another fallacy...opposition doesn't automatically imply malicious intent or deception. The idea that opposition is malicious is a dangerous brainwashing propaganda, it should serve as a red flag warning to *really* take a good hard dispassionate look at who is telling you what.Such malicious opposers would tell what is not true with the intent to deceive others.
Right back atcha, dude.The apostle Peter warned about apostates who would use "counterfeit words," spread "deceptive teachings," and ‘twist the Scriptures’ to their own ends. (2 Peter 2:3, 13; 3:16)
Even if this were true, don't you think a comparative religion forum would be a rather strange place for such a person to seek out to enact his diabolical scheme? If I were apostate, the last place I would seek of my own volition would be anything to do with religion. Least of all a place seeking peaceful dialogue among all religions.What is it that apostates want?
Most are not content to leave the faith that they once perhaps viewed as true.
Often, they want to take others with them. Rather than going out and making their own disciples, many apostates seek to "draw away the disciples [that is, Christ’s disciples] after themselves." (Acts 20:29, 30)
That is true of everyone here that professes Christianity.mee likes to be built up in bible based spiritual food , that is why mee feeds from the channel that Jesus is feeding matthew 24;45-47
I understand what you are saying and where you are coming from, but at least here at CR I don't know how you could say this? All of us here, or to be most truthful *most* of us here, wholly accept G-d's channel on earth (the Holy Spirit), and have a great deal to offer, and are not intent on tearing each other down.
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mee likes the channel that the bible speaks about matthew 24;45-47 and it is being fed straight from the hand of Jesus . only the best will do for meemee likes to be inline with what the bible really teaches .
and it is very good
One should tread very lightly here mee...I have already shown you some distortions, half-truths and outright falsehoods within your own teachings...IOW, you might want to watch where your finger is pointed, you have three more pointed right back at you.
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mee likes to stick to what the bible really teaches. its better![]()
Ah, the standard misquote that assuages the martyr complex...when in doubt, retreat to "they're picking on me...I must be on the correct path for G-d then."
quote] its amazing how the words of Jesus are always correct right down the line.
the visible channel of God has great opposition, in more ways than one.
juantoo3;154369 Another fallacy...opposition doesn't automatically imply malicious intent or deception. quote said:very true indeed
i like to be brainwashed by Gods word the bible , it is pure and washes away the stuff that is dirty.I luv ya, bro. Sometimes some of the stuff that comes out of you (and I know where it is coming from) scares the bejeebers out of me. In any other context I would seriously be thinking *mind-control* and *brainwashing.* Feeding on the Word of G-d is one thing, being spoon fed a bunch of pablum hardly fit for a child and being denied the proper food to grow spiritually is quite another. I am not angry with you, I write this to you with loving concern for a brother in Christ.
That is true of everyone here that professes Christianity.
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nice , matthew 5;5
being built up in the promises of the bible are upbuilding indeed.
"Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth. matthew 5;5
But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. psalm 37;11
With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: "Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away." revelation 21;3-4
they are nice
If I were apostate, the last place I would seek of my own volition would be anything to do with religion
quote] the greatest apostate of all (satan the devil) has used religion to serve his purpose ,and it has worked very well to decieve the whole world .
1 john 5;19
Up keel! Steady the blocks! Chalk that rail wheel, we don't need a runaway hull wasting harbor water...You see the world as a sinking ship? Fair enough... I see it in dry docks needing repair.
I can think of some others who are damn close...If I were apostate, the last place I would seek of my own volition would be anything to do with religion
quote] the greatest apostate of all (satan the devil) has used religion to serve his purpose ,and it has worked very well to decieve the whole world .
1 john 5;19
i can think of many , in fact the whole world wide empire of false religion .I can think of some others who are damn close...
thats why mee has listened to the command from Jesus to get out of it revelation 18;4 and i have allowed the true God to take mee inits something better
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Indeed mee, indeed.i can think of many , in fact the whole world wide empire of false religion .
thats why mee has listened to the command from Jesus to get out of it revelation 18;4 and i have allowed the true God to take mee inits something better
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You see the world as a sinking ship? Fair enough... I see it in dry docks needing repair.
Um, I am a rescue diver mee, and I've pulled many from sinking ships, and fish trawlers and overloaded Hatian sail boats filled with desperate people trying to find a better life...IMAGINE being trapped on a sinking ship.
Just when you think that there is no hope, a rescuer arrives and pulls you to safety.
How relieved you feel as your rescuer takes you away from the danger and says "You are safe now"!
Would you not feel indebted to that person?
In a very real sense, you would owe him your life.
In some respects, this illustrates what Jehovah has done for us.
Surely we are indebted to him.
After all, he has provided the ransom, making it possible for us to be rescued from the clutches of sin and death.
We feel safe knowing that as long as we exercise faith in that precious sacrifice, our sins are forgiven, and our eternal future is secure. (1 John 1:7; 4:9)
Juan agrees what the Bible teaches is better, that isn't the problem.mee likes to stick to what the bible really teaches. its better![]()
Opinion.for mee the internal is something much better . it builds upthe external is nine times out of ten designed to tear down and be in opposition .
with nothing at all to offer.
And also nine times out of ten the external is promoted by those who have rejected Gods visible channel on earth.
Opinion.What methods do apostates use to achieve their aim?
They often resort to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehoods.
Opinion supporting itself with a half verse out of context.Jesus knew that his followers would be victimized by those who would "tell all kinds of evil lies against" them. (Matthew 5:11, Today’s English Version)
Propaganda.Such malicious opposers would tell what is not true with the intent to deceive others.
Opinion attempting to support itself with a badly cobbled verse, hinting very strongly at propaganda.The apostle Peter warned about apostates who would use "counterfeit words," spread "deceptive teachings," and ‘twist the Scriptures’ to their own ends. (2 Peter 2:3, 13; 3:16)
What is it that apostates want?
Most are not content to leave the faith that they once perhaps viewed as true.
An attempt to support the unfounded propaganda with another misconstrued and cobbled verse(s).Often, they want to take others with them. Rather than going out and making their own disciples, many apostates seek to "draw away the disciples [that is, Christ’s disciples] after themselves." (Acts 20:29, 30)
Bible reference is well and good (haven't checked, but I have caught you a number of times in the past quoting verses that have absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand...misleading at best). Can you see yet how just in this one post there are so far three misconstrued and out of context verses quoted soley for the purpose of supporting unfounded propaganda.mee likes to be built up in bible based spiritual food , that is why mee feeds from the channel that Jesus is feeding matthew 24;45-47
Now see, this is a healthy thought founded on a Bible verse, I cannot argue with. (Leaving aside the name of G-d issue) Do you not see this very same thing in the rest of us here?and it is very tasty and healthy good food![]()
Taste and see that Jehovah is good, O YOU people;
Happy is the able-bodied man that takes refuge in him.
psalm 34;8
IMAGINE being trapped on a sinking ship.
Just when you think that there is no hope, a rescuer arrives and pulls you to safety.
How relieved you feel as your rescuer takes you away from the danger and says "You are safe now"!
Would you not feel indebted to that person?
In a very real sense, you would owe him your life.
In some respects, this illustrates what Jehovah has done for us.
Surely we are indebted to him.
After all, he has provided the ransom, making it possible for us to be rescued from the clutches of sin and death.
We feel safe knowing that as long as we exercise faith in that precious sacrifice, our sins are forgiven, and our eternal future is secure. (1 John 1:7; 4:9)
Maybe a little of both...See the beautiful thing about the human mind, is that, it reacts differently to the next, so no, if I were in a situation where lives were indanger, I would refuse to take the victim role. I would sacrafice my efforts to help more surivive.. If I die but in my efforts many are saved then I can die well, if I allow myself to be saved and not attempt to help the others on this sinking ship I will not die, but when I die I will die with regret. In those kind of situations I naturally do what I can to help others putting them before me. *shruggs* Just how it is. Maybe it's the soldier in me... Maybe it's something bigger.