Proof of God

Resigned said:
Yeah - we're still waiting. Where's that "proof" thing?
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I too am waiting... for action to be taken against you
for accusing me of plagiarism... and for you to actually
post a rebuttal for the FIRST POST on the thread.

Everything you have posted thus far has been useless
because it has avoided the first post.
 
c0de said:
I too am waiting... for action to be taken against you
for accusing me of plagiarism... and for you to actually
post a rebuttal for the FIRST POST on the thread.

Everything you have posted thus far has been useless
because it has avoided the first post.
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lmao....your poor little indignance!!
 
NewDawn said:
Some chamber music while we wait.

YouTube - chamber music
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btw, your collegue Mr. Resigned here, already admitted
that I posted the proof. He just does not actually believe
I wrote it and believe i plagiarized (for which he better
provide some proof, quick time).

So one of you has already, indirectly, admitted that
the proof has already been posted.... just a heads up.
 
c0de said:
btw, your collegue Mr. Resigned here, already admitted
that I posted the proof. He just does not actually believe
I wrote it and believe i plagiarized (for which he better
provide some proof, quick time).

So one of you has already, indirectly, admitted that
the proof has already been posted.... just a heads up.
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lol, but exactly what is your head up?
 
c0de said:
logic.... yours?
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:rolleyes: logic you say!! Your single source logic of course ;) Watertight stuff!! Some illiterate schizophrenic,,, monty python should have done that story too!!,,,,:D that used to get off on beheading his rivals and bedding little girls is the guy Allah chooses to reveal this to. A most curious god he be!!

I too have noticed your highlighting ( and your aggression ) and have seen it as a symptom of your own feedback loop of self indoctrination. I will not help you any more. And you most assuredly have not posed an argument worth reading.
 
c0de said:
I agree. Proof is dependent on the paradigm and can be generated for everything. As for intersubjective evidence, I think that debate would also end up dissolving into basic questions of epistemology wouldnt it? I do not think that this sort of debate will get much further as both sides can still go on the offensive. 14
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Greymare said:
Its obvious to me that the people here who dont believe in God, will not believe in God no matter who says what to them. Or what is written in any book, because they dont believe that the book/s come from God. (ie, because He doesnt exist) (to them). We can go round and round but this isnt going to change. 40
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enlightenment said:
Hey, don't get me wrong, there maybe was a time when religion had an imporant role to play, in the creation of socities, I will perhaps give it that.

But I just find it incredible that otherwise rational people do not think rationally about the claims in the Bible and Koran, for example. 48
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Instead of helping someone with points in their proof, belittle them. Ignore the proof, for you cannot see profit in anyone who disagrees with you, who would otherwise be rational people. You are above discussion and can only bestow your wisdom upon others.
 
enlightenment said:
Any which perpetuate the myth of a higher being who created all life.

Any that perpetuate the idea of life after death, and the soul and spirit.

Any which convince the masses that upon death, you will move on to a new place, either a version of heaven or hell.

Any which discriminates, in the way that discrimination can be found in the three Abrahamic faiths, against homosexuals to those who work on Sunday's!

And so on...
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On your last point I fully agree. On all the rest I have some issues. What do you 'think' happens after death. Obviously we are all in the same boat nobody 'knows' for certain. Just as you can't say for certain there isn't a G!d. The jury is out, can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Deepak Chopra contemplates if every cell in our body is exchanged over the years and I go to a class reunion, who are those folks standing there with similar memories to mine. There isn't one atom/cell in the same place as it was twenty years ago, some are even in different bodies. So who is that standing in front of you. And if that can continue then, why do you think it can't continue later.

Life force, accupuncture, chakras, meridians. All denied by Western science and Allopathic medicine until very recently. We can't disect the human and find the meridians, we can't find the life force. The new age wierdo's say 'Duh' while the scientists say it is proof it doesn't exist. Yet accupuncture is used for surgery in lieu of anesthesia and NIH now admits it works for back pain...insurance will pay for it, yet they don't understand it. I've been paid by insurance companies to do hands off healing work, I've been requested by doctor's to go in ICU and terminal wards...to do work that has no basis in science, yet is beneficial to the patient.

There are so many things we don't know, and I am open to admitting this. Although I am willing to use the tools, like prayer, meditation, and cell phones, even though I don't know the intracies, becuase I know they work.

Resigned said:
Now I already conclude I have made my claim logically-- that reality is logical, and reasonably -- that reality is rational.

Are you forgetting that your phone is a mechanical device, not a metaphysical one?
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Well, I guess the discussion is over. You have concluded you are correct, surely everyone here in this world is so appreciative.

So you claim others work copied and not worth discussing...this is your conclusion...too funny. Resigned is a wonderful monikor.

Oh and yes I forgot a cell phone was mechanical what was I thinking. What's the difference?
 



NewDawn + Netti (x2) + Dream + Wil



NewDawn said:
And you most assuredly have not posed an argument worth reading.
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hmmm, thats interesting... how would you know what an argument is
worth, if you have not read it??? This reveals a lot about you Mr.
NewDawn... And it actually confirms my initial hypothesis about you
and "Enlightenment".... You two have not actually read the first post of
this thread, have you? You probably got around 25% way through it and
stopped.... Let me venture another guess... was it too much >logic< for
your illogical minds to handle? You guessed it would be much easier to
just ignore it, and pretend like it doesnt even exist and start the train
of ridicule.... (and now your accusing me of "aggression" LOL!)

And btw, your ally on this thread Mr. Resigned did read it, and instead of
rebutting it, he actually accused me of plagiarism to avoid dealing with it.
But in doing so, he also in inadvertently admitted that the argument
(and PROOF) of God is indeed here and is, indeed, worth reading.
Why else would he think that I copy/pasted it?

btw, here's something funny and ironic: the claim that the the title of
this thread was stupid and idiotic, began with the comment posted by
a Mr. "Enlightenment"... someone who actually started a thread titled
"Israel: Super Power?"

(LOL)




Netti-Netti said:
@Code
Science used both inductive and deductive reasoning.
http://dbkgroup.org/Papers/bioessays_as_published.pdf
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I know dude, but that is exactly what Mr. Resigned here does
not understand. He was referring to the theoretical scientific method
which Popper (a non scientist) popularized, in which induction is supposed
to be non-existent. But in reality (as the paper you provided too shows)
induction has to be used at some point. In fact, without it, nothing will
ever get done.






@ Dream

thanx for reminding me of post # 14.. totally forgot about that one.




@ Wil

I heard that it takes 8 years for every atom in your body to be
replaced with a new atom... really makes you wonder about the
mind/body problem... To me it is further proof against the
materialistic solution. If we were only made of matter, then
technically, ever 8 years, we are not even the same person...
And further, if we were only made of matter, then how could
our consciousness stay with us, while the atoms that make up our
brain be discarded?
 
Psalm 19

1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
the skies proclaim the work of his hands.

2 Day after day they pour forth speech;
night after night they display knowledge.
 
wil said:
On your last point I fully agree. On all the rest I have some issues. What do you 'think' happens after death.
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We decompose. Or we are cremated. Whatever the person chooses.

End of.

I have seen nothing to suggest otherwise.
 
Now, do we have this proof yet, or is it just more pages of Code getting slowly more aggressive to members?

The more he is questioned, the more aggressive he appears to be.

And here is me thinking that religion was meant to bring tolerance and peace .. :rolleyes:
 
enlightenment said:
Now, do we have this proof yet, or is it just more pages of Code getting slowly more aggressive to members?

The more he is questioned, the more aggressive he appears to be.

And here is me thinking that religion was meant to bring tolerance and peace .. :rolleyes:
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Refer to Post #1

as for my aggression, im sorry for being so scary to you dude, my apologies
 
c0de said:
Refer to Post #1

as for my aggression, im sorry for being so scary to you dude, my apologies
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Post one provided proof of nothing, let alone god.

Shall I make it easy for you, perhaps suggest some things that would pass as 'proof'?

Scary?

Hardly.

Cyber warriors are a rather sad species, I tend to find.

:rolleyes:
 
enlightenment said:
Post one provided proof of nothing, let alone god.
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lol... then why did resign accuse me of plagiarism?
He basically thought that it was so well thought out,
that he couldn't believe that I even wrote it.

Also, you claim that it does not prove anything.
Thereby implying that it is full of fallacies rite?
Then why dont you try and prove the fallacies
in the argument instead of just claiming that
it doesnt prove anything?
 
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