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Nick_A
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Now that I know Brian doesn't support politically correct intimidation, there is no reason to leave since it his site. He was in Egypt at the time so cannot be held responsible.
Now that I know Brian doesn't support politically correct intimidation, there is no reason to leave since it his site. He was in Egypt at the time so cannot be held responsible.
Vajradhara
One of Many
if you'd have asked me i would have told you that was the case but then you may have not have believed me at any rate.
metta,
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Nick_A
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Brian said:
In the meantime, I really hope we can move forward - you're no spring chicken to the forums, so hopefully you've found some use for it, and also that - most of the time - we try and set the boundaries right. If we got it wrong this once, then next time something comes up, just PM me directly and let me try and resolve the issue.
Being away didn't help matters - allowed them to fester somewhat - so I'll endeavour to do better in future.
This is solid character. He admits a possible mistake and seeks to do what is right while being open to communication. He was on holiday. Nothing more needs to be said. One can trust character in ways they cannot trust speeches.
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...........................Francis king
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lol........
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Tao_Equus
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.........Fork
Francis king
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didn't mean to laugh, it's just well... he says... I'm going... but before I go I'll stick the boot in Fran...
Nick, I might not agree with your beliefs, but... politically incorrect intimidation... sounds heavy, man...
whereforth is the offending post, so I may read it and chortle..?
Nick, I might not agree with your beliefs, but... politically incorrect intimidation... sounds heavy, man...
whereforth is the offending post, so I may read it and chortle..?
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Nick_A
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Francis, people that use one word answers and smileys so as to feel important as if they understood something will never understand this simple thing let alone the deeper questions of the human condition.
I've already copied my offending post several times. The only two words our over reactive mod could have referred to is c*nt which conforms to the rules through use of the * and penis. You had used this word previously and I included it as a friendly ad on.
So when the mod got bent out of shape, I wrote Brian but I didn't know he was away so had no alternative but to leave when there was no reply. When he returned he wrote a public reply that satisfied me that the intent of the site is not beginning to rely upon PC intimidation. If it were, I could not be a part of it since I know the historic horrors of such intimidation. Brian handled it like a pro so I remarked that he had character. You can chortle all you like but I'm still happy that Brian showed character and I didn't have to leave.
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Francis king
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no, ur right, of course, Brian... fine man that u are...
I am sorry, Nick A, if I seem like I'm taking the mickey... I am, of course, but not in a bad way...
I fail to see how penis is a bad word, though, although c*nt, well... 'tis a bad word, even in my book... It's a derogatory term for a vagina (or is that a bad word too?)
It surely then cannot be right to refer to Sarah Palin as a c*nt, even if she may be a possessor of such...
It seems harsh to pick on Nick A then, when the skanky 'ho who started it all was the person who thought God was male 'cos beetches couldn't handle the prestige...
maybe I should shut up...?
I am sorry, Nick A, if I seem like I'm taking the mickey... I am, of course, but not in a bad way...
I fail to see how penis is a bad word, though, although c*nt, well... 'tis a bad word, even in my book... It's a derogatory term for a vagina (or is that a bad word too?)
It surely then cannot be right to refer to Sarah Palin as a c*nt, even if she may be a possessor of such...
It seems harsh to pick on Nick A then, when the skanky 'ho who started it all was the person who thought God was male 'cos beetches couldn't handle the prestige...
maybe I should shut up...?
seattlegal
Mercuræn Buddhist
Hehehe! Now you have me chortling, Francis. 
juantoo3
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Can I chortle too? Is that allowed?
Is it enough that I almost coughed my coffee back through my nose?
Is it enough that I almost coughed my coffee back through my nose?
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Nick_A
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Why stop at trifles? Why don't we have a ho down in honor of Francis astute observbation concerning this ho?
Urban Dictionary: ho down
I suggest the following. Lets get some booze and do it right. As liberals of course you wouldn't be restricted to country music and you could refer to yourselves as the intelligentsia. Its the spirit that counts.
greymare
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look, penis is an anatomical word ( is it not?) and the "c" word ( and you know which one I mean, is derogatory). Its one of the worst words ever, ( in my opinion).
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greymare
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Ummmmmmm, I obviously dont know enough about what she did was so wrong, (the links arent working) BUT i have met some pretty stupid and horrible females in my time and STILL they arent "c's". nope, not ever.
Saltmeister
The Dangerous Dinner
The thing is, I don't even know if NickA was really being sexist in "The Goddess" thread or was just trying to make a point that people just see women who seek or possess power as somehow "deranged," "despicable" or "psychopathic" (won't use the swear words).
If I was to describe the concept without swear words, there is perhaps a subconscious idea floating in people's minds that women can't be powerful without being sinister, diabolical and vindictive. People implicitly think that they have to perform character assassination, plot conspiracies and destroy people's lives. Most importantly, it's the mouth, the oratorical, verbal slandering aspect of knowing what to say.
But men do that too when they want power, and they have done that for centuries.
I think if there's any disgust over a woman seeking power with these methods, it has to do with a desire to protect an environment dominated by masculine personalities from something feminine. Men like working with the familiar. It gives them certainty. They know the dynamics of an environment filled with other men. They know how it works. This gives them a sense of control.
When a woman comes along, they find themselves confronting something foreign and unfamiliar. They feel threatened by something different. She doesn't play the game the same way, and so they demand that the woman play the game their way because then it gives them a sense of control.
At this stage it depends on the woman. If she wants to be "just another member of the club" she can play fair. If she wants to come out on top, she may need to be more aggressive. She is unlikely to be able to play the game the way the men play it, because men and women are different emotionally and neurologically. She's unlikely to make an impression on the men without being able to play the game with which they're familiar, unless she does something spectacular that catches they're attention. That may require crossing boundaries.
The alternative is sex appeal, but that just goes to show how in an environment dominated by males, you either try to assimilate (which is very hard) or make yourself independent of the world they have created for themselves. You either do that or you exploit a weakness men have, which kills two birds with one stone because firstly, the man does something stupid and secondly the woman is exploiting a man in his state of being stupid.
Whether it's power thirsty men or women, they have both been despised as incomplete, deranged, psychopathic or inept. These "little Lucifers" and "little Jezebels" are generally regarded as disgruntled individuals who just aren't satisfied with the world of the present and want to twist it in some way, crossing boundaries, competing with each other in their sinister and diabolical plots and conspiracies, slandering people and destroying lives.
Everybody else respects the social and political order and the structure of the cosmos. But these guys (and girls) just want to muck with it.
Whether it's a masculine God or feminine Goddess I don't really have a problem if it's something noble and honourable. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Wicca, New Age, etc. have all had their respective ideas of a feminine Deity. If it's a malign God or Goddess it still doesn't matter as it's just the masculine and feminine versions of malevolence, evil and corruption.
Yet, I have to admit, for some reason I still prefer "God" over "Goddess." Maybe it's because I'm a man and I prefer the familiar over the unfamiliar. Men aren't as good at thinking outside the box. Old habits die hard. I didn't grow up with a Goddess in my mind. I grew up with a God in my mind.
Saltmeister
The Dangerous Dinner
Probably nothing wrong.
I just don't like her because she's Republican!
IMHO maybe I'm biased and prejudiced to think that if she were President, she'd wouldn't be any different to George W. Bush. Her foreign policy would be the same.She'd probably turn out to be pretty decent if I met her in person.
So far, I haven't seen her do anything that impresses me enough for me to think she can rival Hillary Clinton. Obviously, because she hadn't been running for the Presidency and was nowhere near doing it when McCain chose her, she'd be a lot less prepared. That is unlike Hillary Clinton who has been pushing for it these past few years. Clinton is a veteran in that regard.
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Nick_A
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Saltmeister
To achieve goddess stature comes either from developing ones own attributes and talents or destroying the attributes and talents of others. The Sarah Palin is a C*nt tee shirt is an atttempt to destroy her quality that many are aware of and in the process raising their own stature in the eyes of their equally naive friends. It is a nasty side of human psychology our political correctness doesn't want to admit. Such is life.
You mised the point as well. A modern goddess is representative of a valued "quality" that is superior in one way or another. The urge for superiority and its "prestige" is normal for our egotism.
To achieve goddess stature comes either from developing ones own attributes and talents or destroying the attributes and talents of others. The Sarah Palin is a C*nt tee shirt is an atttempt to destroy her quality that many are aware of and in the process raising their own stature in the eyes of their equally naive friends. It is a nasty side of human psychology our political correctness doesn't want to admit. Such is life.