Door-To-Door Missionaries

pattimax said:
What do you get when you cross a JW with a unitarian?

Someone who knocks on your door, but doesn't know why.

(It fit)

Seriously, I never tried knocking on people's doors.

Before I became a Christian, some people did knock on my door about Christ (I'm not counting JW's), but there was no follow through. I was nice to them, but they never came back. I even called their church the next day to check them out. And then that sorry little church never called back. At the time, it was a black mark against them.
They gave me more ammunition not to become a Christian.

So I guess my point is that if you are gonna do something, do it right. With the right person, knocking on doors could be a lot of fun!
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That is probably the weak point in visitation: consistent follow-up. We do get quite a few visitors on Sunday. And we have them fill our visitor's cards and try to visit them the following visitation day. We keep record of each visit to the visitor and note whether they are interested enough to visit again. But sometimes we are short on people to go out on visitation and some fall prospects through the cracks. It is unfortunate, and we are striving to improve.
 
Dondi said:
That is probably the weak point in visitation: consistent follow-up. We do get quite a few visitors on Sunday. And we have them fill our visitor's cards and try to visit them the following visitation day. We keep record of each visit to the visitor and note whether they are interested enough to visit again. But sometimes we are short on people to go out on visitation and some fall prospects through the cracks. It is unfortunate, and we are striving to improve.
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My mom's church has a pie ministry. Any newbie that comes and signs the welcome book gets a pie delivered to their house, along with a thank you, and some pamphlets. A no pressure knock on the door with a gift.

I like that idear.
 
pattimax said:
How sweet. Jesus treats!
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Yes, and can you imagine the discussion with friends, family, neighbors?

Well how did you pick that church?

Well we were new to town and we were visiting various churches to see what they offered. And some we liked and some we didn't and some left a message thanking us for coming, and others sent someone by to preach the gospel to us, try to get us to sit down and talk about the bible and being saved just as we were trying to pack for a flight home. But these guys, they just called to ask if we'd be home they had a gift to drop by. And they showed up at the door with pie, and gave us some more information on their services and classes, and a CD on what their church is about, and they asked if we had any questions and then they left! So we visited a couple of more times, didn't get anymore pie, but we like the congregation and the message and keep going.... Why, do you want a pie?
 
wil said:
Yes, and can you imagine the discussion with friends, family, neighbors?

Well how did you pick that church?

Well we were new to town and we were visiting various churches to see what they offered.
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I checked out the Baptists because they had a gym. That isn't why I went the Baptist route, but it gave me a reason to research it a little more.
 
wil said:
My mom's church has a pie ministry. Any newbie that comes and signs the welcome book gets a pie delivered to their house, along with a thank you, and some pamphlets. A no pressure knock on the door with a gift.

I like that idear.
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I would constantly change my name/appearance and keep going over there for the pie..... "Pie please, hold the pamphlets.... On a diet."
 
pattimax said:
I checked out the Baptists because they had a gym. That isn't why I went the Baptist route, but it gave me a reason to research it a little more.
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There you go, the gym gave you the impetus and the opportunity to learn more about them!

That is what I feel is missing about some of the door to door stuff, if you want anyone to listen to you you first need to listen to them, if you want someone to move from point a to point b, you need to give them something that will entice them. I'd say for most people the fire and brimstone fear approach has run its course.
 
wil said:
Yes, and can you imagine the discussion with friends, family, neighbors?

Well how did you pick that church?

Well we were new to town and we were visiting various churches to see what they offered. And some we liked and some we didn't and some left a message thanking us for coming, and others sent someone by to preach the gospel to us, try to get us to sit down and talk about the bible and being saved just as we were trying to pack for a flight home. But these guys, they just called to ask if we'd be home they had a gift to drop by. And they showed up at the door with pie, and gave us some more information on their services and classes, and a CD on what their church is about, and they asked if we had any questions and then they left! So we visited a couple of more times, didn't get anymore pie, but we like the congregation and the message and keep going.... Why, do you want a pie?
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lol. Food for thought.:D

Do you want fries with that? Salt and pepper? Taste good? Want more? Food glorious food. The more we eat the happier we become and the more we need to be happy. Food, the holiest of concepts.

Food turns people on. It could even be a reward and punishment thing.

You choose not to have further dealings with the church. No pie. You naughty, bad dog. Behave. Negative behavioural reinforcement. You were supposed to express interest you wascally wabbit.:eek: These people represent God and you just shunned God's people. You f***ing blasphemer!!!! No respect for the divine.

You visit the church. You are rewarded with a pie.

You are interested in the church. Another pie.

You visit the church next Sunday. Another pie. Different colour, different taste, but still a nice juicy pie.

and the next.... Another pie.

3 more Sunday visits to the church.... 3 more pies.

You start becoming a part of the church's community. You get a voucher to an expensive restaurant.

You start making pies for newcomers. Someone makes pies for you.

Now everybody makes pies for everyone else. We start sharing more. Nobody is special anymore.:D:eek:

Give a little, get a little. Eventually you get a lot and are able to give more.
 
I think "fire and brimstone" is a worn out cliche'. Some people are just genuinely concerned.

People get labels. It is much easier to categorize people so you can ignore them.

...don't tell me anything that might make me uncomfortable...see? Everyone agrees with me! Must be right.
 
wil said:
That is what I feel is missing about some of the door to door stuff, if you want anyone to listen to you you first need to listen to them
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Yep.....bad marketing.

wil said:
if you want someone to move from point a to point b, you need to give them something that will entice them. I'd say for most people the fire and brimstone fear approach has run its course.
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Why not say.....go to church next Sunday and you might win a trip to Disneyland?:D:eek:

wil said:
I'd say for most people the fire and brimstone fear approach has run its course.
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I think most people would prefer to go to Disneyland.:D
 
pattimax said:
I think "fire and brimstone" is a worn out cliche'. Some people are just genuinely concerned.

People get labels. It is much easier to categorize people so you can ignore them.
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How is it worn out or cliche when it is still preached? I've been in many a church and listened to them castigating sinners and putting the fear of G!d into them that they are headed to eternal damnation in hell. Repent or suffer the consequences, declare Jesus your savior (although mee quoted us where G!d is our only saviour, and we are to have no one before him, but then Jesus says only thru me, but the there is the trinity which says they are the same but different...) Anyhow, there is enough fire and brimstone still being used to keep us warm all winter.

Hey, just figured out the problem, AL, AL GORE, over here. The solution, Global Warming is caused by dogmatic literal churches, we must stop people from going door to door!! AL! Where are ya?
 
wil said:
How is it worn out or cliche when it is still preached? I've been in many a church and listened to them castigating sinners and putting the fear of G!d into them that they are headed to eternal damnation in hell. Repent or suffer the consequences, declare Jesus your savior (although mee quoted us where G!d is our only saviour, and we are to have no one before him, but then Jesus says only thru me, but the there is the trinity which says they are the same but different...) Anyhow, there is enough fire and brimstone still being used to keep us warm all winter.
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I don't think you have an open mind. Your ears may be slanted.

...and there you go categorizing.

I came across an interesting analogy about the trinity. It compared the dimensions of the trinity to the dimensions of space. New to me. A straight line, a square, and then a cube.

I would be interested to hear your arguments.

(Explains some one and two dimensional thinking.)

 
pattimax said:
I don't think you have an open mind. Your ears may be slanted.

...and there you go categorizing.

I came across an interesting analogy about the trinity. It compared the dimensions of the trinity to the dimensions of space. New to me. A straight line, a square, and then a cube.

I would be interested to hear your arguments.

(Explains some one and two dimensional thinking.)
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Who and where was I categorizing? Saying folks who preach fire and brimstone preach fire and brimstone? I'd be interested in hearing the whole analogy. I wouldn't say G!d, Spirit or Jesus are one dimensional, nor two outta three being two dimensional so without hearing it in its entirety I can't really comment.
 
wil said:
Yes, and can you imagine the discussion with friends, family, neighbors?

Well how did you pick that church?

Well we were new to town and we were visiting various churches to see what they offered. And some we liked and some we didn't and some left a message thanking us for coming, and others sent someone by to preach the gospel to us, try to get us to sit down and talk about the bible and being saved just as we were trying to pack for a flight home. But these guys, they just called to ask if we'd be home they had a gift to drop by. And they showed up at the door with pie, and gave us some more information on their services and classes, and a CD on what their church is about, and they asked if we had any questions and then they left! So we visited a couple of more times, didn't get anymore pie, but we like the congregation and the message and keep going.... Why, do you want a pie?
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Would you eat a piece of pie that a stranger is giving to you on your doorstep?

Hahaha, man, maybe this stuff works in small towns, but where I'm from, that stuff does NOT fly.
 
madeinrussia89 said:
Would you eat a piece of pie that a stranger is giving to you on your doorstep?

Hahaha, man, maybe this stuff works in small towns, but where I'm from, that stuff does NOT fly.
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Namaste mir,

Me thinks DC and Baltimore are comparable in population to Eugene. And yeah, if I went to a new church on Sunday and then got a call from someone at the church saying they had a delivery, and they'd brought a pie...heck yeah, I'd eat it.

lol, I'd rather ingest that then a lot of the other is tried to be forced down my throat by D2D Missionaries!
 
wil said:
Namaste mir,

Me thinks DC and Baltimore are comparable in population to Eugene.
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I'm not from Eugene. I'm from Las Vegas. And in Vegas, taking pie from strangers is like sucking on gum you found on the sidewalk.

But again, I guess it's different in small towns, among other things that I am slowly figuring out in Eugene.

And yeah, if I went to a new church on Sunday and then got a call from someone at the church saying they had a delivery, and they'd brought a pie...heck yeah, I'd eat it.
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Of course you'd eat pie AT a new church (who wouldn't, it's pie) but....what is to stop people from lying and saying " oh yeah we're from this and this church " (not that the church would do that, but crazies who figured out it was a practice of a church in town) and killing people door-to-door?
 
madeinrussia89 said:
I'm not from Eugene. I'm from Las Vegas. And in Vegas, taking pie from strangers is like sucking on gum you found on the sidewalk.

But again, I guess it's different in small towns, among other things that I am slowly figuring out in Eugene.



Of course you'd eat pie AT a new church (who wouldn't, it's pie) but....what is to stop people from lying and saying " oh yeah we're from this and this church " (not that the church would do that, but crazies who figured out it was a practice of a church in town) and killing people door-to-door?
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Horse puckey...you goof, but your heart isn't in it. In Vegas, it's all free, as long as you pull the one armed bandit...you and I both know that for fact.

v/r

Q
 
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