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Nope some of us will be with him and some of us will be wishing we were.:)

Christianity and universalism do not mix well. Pick up the book and read it. Sorry I put it ahead of Merton, Barclay, Suzuki, the Pope and any other man you want to list.

And did you expect dialogue from this.

Pathless where are you at? I mean where do you live? Heck your hatred toward America, Im sure you either enjoy living in America or some country we have either saved their ass or paid their way.

Cause a serpent tricked them Why do you?

And you know this is all true right Wil. You have actually read those billion year old papers. Sorry I forgot no one has been here for billions of years and no one will ever prove if any of those numbers are right cause no one will be here in 10 billion years.

They will still be here when Im gone.:)

Some things just are not art no matter who tries to say it is.:(

Thats the problem Q. In my opinion they all need to meld it with Christianity because they all know it can not stand on its on.

The exact same word "," "aionion" is used to describe the duration of punishment as well as of the life of the righteous - those who are saved. The same word describes both conditions. If it means one thing in the first part of this sentence, then it means the same thing in the second part...

Mee please keep this Biblical no watchtower doctrine.:)

This is like beating my head against a wall. You will not just read the Bible you trust some Man.:(

So Andrew are you a Morman?

Too many questions for one post to go over each individually so Im just gonna hit points. why does it matter what we believe. why does god care about belief. and even if he does, why does he get so mad at disbelief John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not...

Ok Mee so according to The Watchtower now you are saying you can have smoke but no fire. :eek: Open your eyes and brain put the watchtower down and back away from it.

Sorry Mee but the Bible does not say anything about 1914 in it at all. Jesus kicked the unfaithful out way before 1914 or before any man period in fact.

is this a scholarly valid approach? I have no desire to experience hell so to me it is not a valid approach. Stick with the Bible. Matthew25:46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Mark 3:28Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be...

I can think of a few who did not have a choice in the matter.:(

Yep Chris I see what you mean. Sorry if I sounded short or curt. Yes it is true to a biblical christian sometime logic and rationalizations come after faith and belief.

Sorry but I am not a moderator.:) I agree with you the future does not need liberal or fundamentalist Christians The progressive Christians will be all thats left:rolleyes: . I am neither a fundamentalist or liberal Im a biblical christian.