Suicide in the name of Religion

Netti-Netti said:
Where are they?

Btw, the news story at the top of the thread tells us nothing about a connection between suicidal acts and politico-religious ideology. Did you have other examples in mind?
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I'm sorry for you that you feel a need to spam the thread.
 
Netti-Netti said:
Why do you keep showing up here empty handed with nothing to offer that's relevant to the thread topic?
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Page after page and the best you can do is spam the thread with off-topic banter about "palestinians".

I'd feel embarassed for you but you continue spamming.
 
Resigned said:
Page after page and the best you can do is spam the thread with off-topic banter about "palestinians".
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Actually I'm talking about your OP. Based on the OP, it seems you believe that certain acts of suicide are "closely tied to one particular politico-religious ideology."

Would it be fair to say that you haven't provided a shred of evidence of a connection between suicidal acts and politico-religious ideology?
 
Netti-Netti said:
Actually I'm talking about your OP. Based on the OP, it seems you believe that certain acts of suicide are "closely tied to one particular politico-religious ideology."

Would it be fair to say that you haven't provided a shred of evidence of a connection between suicidal acts and politico-religious ideology?
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I think it's obvious you reading comprehension skills are lacking... or... you're desperate to avoid responding to a single salient point because that would clash with your beliefs. Much more the latter than the former... by only a little.
 
Resigned said:
I think it's obvious you reading comprehension skills are lacking... or... you're desperate to avoid responding to a single salient point because that would clash with your beliefs. Much more the latter than the former... by only a little.
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My beliefs are not at issue here. Shall we get back to the topic at hand?

Isn't it true that you haven't provided a shred of evidence of a connection between suicidal acts and politico-religious ideology?
 
Netti-Netti said:
My beliefs are not at issue here. Shall we get back to the topic at hand?

Isn't it true that you haven't provided a shred of evidence of a connection between suicidal acts and politico-religious ideology?
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No. Isn't it true that these bellicose "isn't it true" statements are the blusterings of those (you, in particular), who have shamelessly spammed this thread with off topic banter?

I noticed that you carefully avoided not addressing my concern that you were intentionally spamming the thread and my addressing the fact that you were opining that “we” should stay on topic when you were doing no such thing.

Why is it now, after more pages of your spamming, that you are asking about staying on topic when you have a consistent pattern of not doing so? If this is about your wanting to increase your post count, why not say so? You’ve demonstrated both consistently and tediously that you have objective but to stutter and mumble your way through spamming with irrelevant nonsense.

There’s no reason to take you seriously. Send in your replacement: farhan.
 
Resigned said:
There’s no reason to take you seriously. Send in your replacement: farhan.
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I take it that you are bowing out of the debate. I think this could have been handled faster if you had just simply come out and admitted that you have no facts.

Just out of curiosity - what do you get out of this ?
 
Netti-Netti said:
I take it that you are bowing out of the debate. I think this could have been handled faster if you had just simply come out and admitted that you have no facts.

Just out of curiosity - what do you get out of this ?
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I can only assume that you have nothing to contribute and are therefore reduced to spamming in desperate, yet futile effort to avoid embarrassment.

Your bluster has not shielded you from the effects of a corrupted ability to defend your claims, even when your only argument was a failed attempt to derail the thread with your nonsensical comments regarding “Palestinians”.

You may stagger and reel and seek to evade, but others reading this thread will certainly recognize that you have refused to address any of my assertions, and have not even attempted to refute the facts I cited. Like the craven Tyson biting the ear of the mighty Holyfield, you have merely proven that you are unable to compete.

Alas, I expected no better of you...
 
Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmm, netti asked for examples, havent seen one yet...
and yet you type a hell of a lot.
oh, i get it....you must be a politician, you speak a lot of words and never really answer the question.............
 
greymare said:
Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmm, netti asked for examples, havent seen one yet...
and yet you type a hell of a lot.
oh, i get it....you must be a politician, you speak a lot of words and never really answer the question.............
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I’ll take this to mean that you find no connection at all between Moslems who commit mass murder and their politico-religious perspectives?

I’ll take this to mean that you believe the 19 hijackers who plowed commercial airliners in the WTC weren’t affected by religious motivations – they were just upset at the choice of the in-flight movie.

We're to believe then that the act of driving a bomb laden car in a crowd of people is not connested with religious perceptions?
 
Resigned said:
I’ll take this to mean that you believe the 19 hijackers who plowed commercial airliners in the WTC weren’t affected by religious motivations – they were just upset at the choice of the in-flight movie.
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Over 3,000 people died that day, my friend's cousin among them.
And you are using their death as a punchline to support your
baseless attack on religion... You should be ashamed sir.

And here is a documentary that came out analyzing the WTC
attacks, post 9/11 commission. Before you go blaming religion
and Islam, give it a watch:

YouTube - Zero: An Investigation Into 9-11 - part 1


Resigned said:
I’ll take this to mean that you find no connection at all between Moslems who commit mass murder and their politico-religious perspectives?
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Please go back and try an answer the many objections
to your thesis posted by everyone before repeating the
same nullified points over and over again. The motivations
are not "politico-religious" as you assert, they are just
political.
 
I would like to take this opportunity to state this.

First y`all should notice that the Code of Hammurabi is alive and well in the Judaic, Muslim and Christian communities. That just about puts all geographic regions west of India. Don`t take this lightly, its the "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" code, which just can`t be shrugged off by Abrahamic religious people. I grew up in buddhist regions as well and the difference is clear aggregately.

Why this is wrong.

Second it is hard to differentiate this law from the others, but time and time again we are told specifically to "Thou shalt not kill", as a general theme in our lives BY GOD. Starting from around 2000 years ago and on, IMO we are specifically told not to make idol sacrifices in the name of the Lord and we roughly got the message. Some forgot..

Now this is where it gets complicated, and I don`t have the entire answer but I can reference you to some people`s experiences that directly relates to the suicide bombers.

While true and hardened religious people are always prepared to die for righteousness, that is why they are the toughest. And again I do not have the answers to who is right.

But I do know that suicide bombings should not be performed in the name of religion in vengeance. That is not holy.

And, we should understand that some WWII Kamikaze pilots believed in world peace. Most Japanese don`t know, so no surprise if we don`t know.

Some Kamikaze pilots who`s lifes were spared feel guilty for being alive, some feel that they were misled by their commanders.


A Kamikaze pilot told his commander that he was confident he could sink his target ship with his 500kg bomb and asked for permission if he could return after he had accomplished that. The reply was "No! You must die!!".

Now I don`t know about you guys but I am inclined to think something similar is happening now.

TK

p.s. The Japanese suicide bombings didn`t stop because of the A. Bomb just in case some are mistaken.
 
TheKhan said:
But I do know that suicide bombings should not be performed in the name of religion in vengeance. That is not holy.
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You may be on to something here. I'm serious—groups like CAIR, the apologists in this thread and other professional Western Islamic apologetics groups should engage in some overseas outreach work to inform moslems that Islam is peaceful and tolerant. I mean, the überleftists have it covered here. I'd love to see Ibrahim Hooper and a couple of posters in this thread step in front of a crazed, carbine-armed Thai jihadi on a motorcycle or wave down a car bomber with a vehicle full of explosives and explain how misguided his understanding of the Religion of Peace is.
 
Resigned said:
You may be on to something here. I'm serious—groups like CAIR, the apologists in this thread and other professional Western Islamic apologetics groups should engage in some overseas outreach work to inform moslems that Islam is peaceful and tolerant. I mean, the überleftists have it covered here. I'd love to see Ibrahim Hooper and a couple of posters in this thread step in front of a crazed, carbine-armed Thai jihadi on a motorcycle or wave down a car bomber with a vehicle full of explosives and explain how misguided his understanding of the Religion of Peace is.
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You didn't like it when I attributed the crimes that Stalin commited
to atheism. So why are you know being hypocritical and attributing
the acts of crazy carbine armed jihadis to Islam?

If I took you seriously, I might even be offended by your not addressing
any of the objections that people have posted to your thesis so far...
But since I already know you're so far gone in that schizo-world of yours, I will
just be amused by your labeling everyone who doesn't agree with you
as an "apologist" and pretending like you can get away with it and no one
will notice.
 
Every father swells with pride as his little girl approaches womanhood. There's just so much to look forward to: her first love, marriage, maybe an exciting career... and of course, stepping into a crowd to blow herself up in a deadly explosion of fire and shrapnel flying through the air at high speed… in God's name. Yes, these precious, little things are what memories are made of.

Why not make your deity proud by staging spectacular mass murders whereby you get the added bonus of administering some excruciating disfigurement and intense pain in the bright orange flash of a car bomb explosion... Oh yeah, and then have lunch with the prophet Mohammad.


This article from the telegraph.co.uk goes back to November of 2008 but the killing continues.



'Mother of all suicide bombers' warns of rise in attacks

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/3464411/Mother-of-all-suicide-bombers-warns-of-rise-in-attacks.html



A captured Iraqi terrorist known as the "mother of the female suicide bombers" has taunted interrogators that her network of volunteers is too big to be destroyed by her arrest.
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Captain Ahmed Jasim, a spokesman for the Baquba police, said that the 38-year-old had described how a group of women, mainly widows of terrorist "martyrs", who are grooming younger relatives and acquaintances for death.


"She said she is just one of many mothers who do the same job," he said. "And there are many girls who are willing to die. The mothers tell them that they will go to heaven, where they will sit by rivers of honey and have lunch with the prophet Mohammad and live in comfort.
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Resigned said:
Every father swells with pride as his little girl approaches womanhood. There's just so much to look forward to: her first love, marriage, maybe an exciting career... and of course, stepping into a crowd to blow herself up in a deadly explosion of fire and shrapnel flying through the air at high speed… in God's name. Yes, these precious, little things are what memories are made of.

Why not make your deity proud by staging spectacular mass murders whereby you get the added bonus of administering some excruciating disfigurement and intense pain in the bright orange flash of a car bomb explosion... Oh yeah, and then have lunch with the prophet Mohammad.


This article from the telegraph.co.uk goes back to November of 2008 but the killing continues.



'Mother of all suicide bombers' warns of rise in attacks

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/3464411/Mother-of-all-suicide-bombers-warns-of-rise-in-attacks.html



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You might want to tone it down with these distasteful attempts at humor.
If you think your going to revive your (already paralyzed) thesis with simple wit,
your very mistaken.
 
c0de said:
You might want to tone it down with these distasteful attempts at humor.
If you think your going to revive your (already paralyzed) thesis with simple wit,
your very mistaken.
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Ahhhh would'nt it be nice to be able to censor everything I do not approve of!
If its good enough for a national paper what is wrong with it here? And just who the hell do you think you are?
 
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