The Holy Name of God

Fromthe opening post onthis thread:

A. Ben-Shema said:
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All genuine religious scriptures (not just the Bible) say that without true knowledge of the ONE HOLY (SPIRITUAL) NAME of God there can be no Salvation.
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I really don't think that's accurate because "salvation" is more of a Christian concept.

In the Baha'i Faith we have a reference to what's called the "Greatest Name" and an artcile on the subject can be readhere:

Conqueror of Hearts: Chapter 9: "Explanation of the Symbol of the Greatest Name"

This for us Baha'is is the greeting we use "Allah'u'Abha" and is also found in another form at the apex of Baha'i Houses of Worship. It's also recited by Baha'is ninety five times a day..

- Art:)
 
A. Ben-Shema said:
All genuine religious scriptures (not just the Bible) say that without true knowledge of the ONE HOLY (SPIRITUAL) NAME of God there can be no Salvation.
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Does early Indian Buddhism count or are the Suttras not considered religious scriptures?
 
Dondi said:
So let me get this straight. In order to be 'saved', one must know this NAME.

But this NAME can only be handed down by one of the Apostles, and only to those who are worthy.

But the Apostles have been dead for nearly 2 millenia, so in other words, we're screwed? Maybe we all aren't worthy.
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You are talking about the 12 Apostles of Yehoshua. But God continually sends genuine Apostles to every generation. Seek and you will find.

:)
 
A. Ben-Shema said:
... is perhaps the most important thing we can know in our lives.

All genuine religious scriptures (not just the Bible) say that without true knowledge of the ONE HOLY (SPIRITUAL) NAME of God there can be no Salvation.

So I challenge anyone to explain exactly what is meant by this Sacred/Holy SPIRITUAL NAME of God.

:confused::confused:

:)
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peace Ben-Shema,

The sacred/holy [Allah] Name of God means the non resemblance of Allah to anything else.

Qidam: "He"is before the before. "He" did not become. "He" always was.
Baqa: "He" is after te after, eternal, "He" always will be.
Wahdaniyyah: "He" is unique, without partner, the cause of all. All is in need of "him". All has become by the order"BE" and has died by "His" order.
Mukhalafatun Ul-hawadith: "He" is the creator bearing no resemblance to the created.
Qiyam Bi-nafsihi: "He" is self existence, without any needs.


Amin...

Peace,
Faithful-Angel:)
 
nativeastral said:
l'm concerned about the 'he' but l know its just 'convention', think l'll stick with aum:)
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Salaam,

I put as "He", is to quote that I'm just using the term "He" refered to as "He" God who is nothing like a human or an idol...

I hope this helps just for ur reference :)


peace
 
mee said:
When applied to Jehovah, “Most High” emphasizes his supreme position above all others. (Ps 83:18)

Topmost as to place, or position
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Since when does God need to compete?

Since when is God a dualist?

Since when isn't God omnipresent?

Since when do others answer for God?
 
A. Ben-Shema said:
... is perhaps the most important thing we can know in our lives.

All genuine religious scriptures (not just the Bible) say that without true knowledge of the ONE HOLY (SPIRITUAL) NAME of God there can be no Salvation.

So I challenge anyone to explain exactly what is meant by this Sacred/Holy SPIRITUAL NAME of God.

:confused::confused:

:)
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With lot of excuses I'v to say dear fellow, why we first need to know the NAME of Spernatural God? why not to first believe in God's existence?

For as very first post says:

without true knowledge of the ONE HOLY (SPIRITUAL) NAME of God there can be no Salvation.
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I never ever read in any religious scripture which demands for ONE NAME of God for our salvation. Yep, there is Salvation believing in just ONE GOD.
 
Get over it. Oh, you already did. Sit then. Oh you did. Over, as under in any parts. Where there are no parts, superior/inferior, there is nothing left to get, but only give. Got it? Don't answer IT.
 
The Holy Name of God is JEHOVAH PSALM 83;18 :)


“I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to graven images.isaiah 42;8
 
mee said:
The Holy Name of God is JEHOVAH PSALM 83;18 :)


“I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to graven images.isaiah 42;8
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Ok, and how does that make you feel? Angry? Sad? Alone?
 
It's my resurrection time of year again so I thought I'd chime in here with the Holy Name of God stenciled across my avatar. But alas, I cannot reveal the Name because the avatar image fails to load.



So try this one: Goodness. Yes, that's right. Just plain ol' Goodness. That's God's name that counts. All the other ones are either platitudes or secret code names used by elitist groups as get-out-of-hell cards.
 
Will be said:
Get over it. Oh, you already did. Sit then. Oh you did. Over, as under in any parts. Where there are no parts, superior/inferior, there is nothing left to get, but only give. Got it? Don't answer IT.
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Is that reply to ME :confused:

I excused for this dear fellow!
 
mee said:
The Holy Name of God is JEHOVAH PSALM 83;18 :)


“I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to graven images.isaiah 42;8
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Jehovah! which is mistaken transliteration of YHWH. That's why I said salvation is as under to believe in just ONE GOD.
 
Will be said:
Not that this matters, but when I was just a kid, like 3 yrs, I remember being told about guardian angels, actually began praying to my guardian angel to protect me at night, because I was afraid of the dark. And my guardian, in my mind was so real, but had no name, only substance, which was non-gendered, invisible, and loving kind. This angel, became my God, as safety companion, wherever and whenever I needed I simply made space in my mind, or would intentionally step aside some, or move over some to allow my angel to come be with me, and show me, with invisible presence. And, that presence, has become my God, grew up into being with me at all times and places.

When I think of my father, who has passed away some years back, I create a sacred space of love for him. All my family and friends who come into my awareness, like sweet breezes across a field of wild flowers, I simply be there with them, as open and honest as I can be. They will never leave me, if I create the space for them to be alive in me.

I reach up to God through my family, all my family, all experience being as open to, as family. God is not something which is not something else, reaching through love, to be it.

Ok, I'm a nut, or apple seed. You can call me Johnny.
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This is a great post.

Look hard at it: it shows where linear logical understanding has to give up in the face of that which cannot be comprehended. Language itself cannot constrain the mystery of God, but breaks down in the attempt.

A name is an identity. It defines a thing or a person, shows what is and what isn't that name. It separates that identity for other identities. In this way we learn to understand the world we were born into. As babies everything is one big WOW, then we recognise our mother's face, and other faces, and ultimately words and ideas. For us, we need to name a thing for it to have an existence in our lives.

This is the paradox. We cannot know God without naming God. But as soon as we name God we have lost him, because he cannot be defined, he has no limits, you cannot say "this is where God ends". In the Sufi tradition he is often referred to as "the only being". This is the meaning of the quotes from Thomas's and Philip's gospels. So his "name" is unknowable.

What can we do then? We can recognise that all our names for God fall short of the truth. We can stop trying to understand God, but seek to know and love him in silence and meditation, in laughter and tears, in music, art and poetry, in courage and hard work. Then his name is written in our hears and in our lives, for all to read.
 
Virtual_Cliff said:
This is a great post.

Look hard at it: it shows where linear logical understanding has to give up in the face of that which cannot be comprehended. Language itself cannot constrain the mystery of God, but breaks down in the attempt.

A name is an identity. It defines a thing or a person, shows what is and what isn't that name. It separates that identity for other identities. In this way we learn to understand the world we were born into. As babies everything is one big WOW, then we recognise our mother's face, and other faces, and ultimately words and ideas. For us, we need to name a thing for it to have an existence in our lives.

This is the paradox. We cannot know God without naming God. But as soon as we name God we have lost him, because he cannot be defined, he has no limits, you cannot say "this is where God ends". In the Sufi tradition he is often referred to as "the only being". This is the meaning of the quotes from Thomas's and Philip's gospels. So his "name" is unknowable.

What can we do then? We can recognise that all our names for God fall short of the truth. We can stop trying to understand God, but seek to know and love him in silence and meditation, in laughter and tears, in music, art and poetry, in courage and hard work. Then his name is written in our hears and in our lives, for all to read.
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There is a God! Or several. Or none... it's "ours" that makes the fall from grace into a rigid mould. At least there are options for change, but what I am referring to is not just day to day, or night to night "same old same old", tradition, conditioning. (wait, i have to watch a deer out back, man is he coming close, sounds in silence merge, all is sound... OM)

I am so distractible, and looking out the window (bing/sync) is, has always been a release for me, as in - paying attention to the natural would around me for release. I am, an introvert, and there are classifications for us, which once I was more versed on, not that it matters, for you, unless I can share something, about the name, naming, not "whom" it is, but "when" union arises. thanks
 
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