why cant i ignore moderators ?

I raised these issues with you a long time ago, and I was fully and unfairly rebuffed at that time. I await a change to the response you gave me at that time.

You've kind of made the point that you want the forums run in your own way according to your own personal aims and interests - which is obviously neither what these forums are about, nor what is going to happen.

I'm sorry, Nick - all I can advise is that you build your own community and run it your way, if that's ultimately what you want from a community.

Sounds familiar & I have been down that road & wont be going down it again. Liked feedback gets praised & accepted while unliked feedback gets rejected with a pacifier. If you are awaiting any of This&That to change, it isn't going to.

Yes, I seem to recall a few years back you made repeated requests for help in keeping the Christianity board focused on that, and I was happy to help.

Now you seem bitter and angry, and don't seem to hold any thanks for all the times I listened to you previously.

Might I suggest separate accounts for moderation ?

Makes it kind of complicated, but moderators are only there to help keep the place running smoothly - and if you feel that anyone is abusing their position, just let me know.

Do not ignore moderators... rebuke them.

Indeed, if you disgree with someone who is a moderator about general discussion topics, you're never going to get into trouble for it. Moderators have the last word only on moderating issues.

What amazes me is how many people here seem focused only on knocking the site and community here. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time than visit IO? There is a bigger world out there. :)
 
Yes, I seem to recall a few years back you made repeated requests for help in keeping the Christianity board focused on that, and I was happy to help.

Now you seem bitter and angry, and don't seem to hold any thanks for all the times I listened to you previously.

I dont care either way how you run your christian forum & it has nothing to do with your opinion of people being bitter or angry & I dont recall you helping. What I recall is you do NOT LISTEN to what people are actually saying when you dont like what they are saying, thus you can not possibly help.


Of course, some people will always complain that the forum should be run a certain way - usually their way - but I would hope that people who raise issues with me do not find my decisions entirely unreasonable.

this is the same old cliche you use everytime someone has feedback that you don't like.


As I've said before, if anyone has any issues with any moderators here, they are welcome to raise the issue with me. Being a moderator is a responsibility, and does not offer any right to mistreat members of the community.

If you cant handle the feedback in public that you dont like then you will be doing the same thing you are doing now if they raise the issue AGAIN, as others have already mentioned.

instead of putting sugar coated pacifiers in their mouths. It would be much easier & direct if you would just tell the people NO! I know there are several people here who have problems with your some of your mods & you do not listen to what they say because you don't like what they say, thus you cannot possibly be helping.

You've kind of made the point that you want the forums run in your own way according to your own personal aims and interests

That is the point you are making but it isn't the point I see them making.
 
What amazes me is how many people here seem focused only on knocking the site and community here. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time than visit IO? There is a bigger world out there. :)
I'm not knocking the website... I'm knocking your behavior, the behavior of a person like Quahom1, and other moderators who have followed suit. I'll rebuke that behavior here, in places more distant, and in places more closer to home. :)
 
I love IO and all the people who help to make it so special.

:) :) :) :) :)

Now please excuse me while I wipe off my nose...

I seem to have got something brown on it.

:p :p :p :p :p
 
"YOu dont like it?.... dont let the door hit you on the way out.."

Honestly! Enough of this whinging. !

Im sorry, but moderators are like the referees on the playing field. We are the participants (or the spectators). The rules are the rules, and the refs/mods are there to ensure the continuation/safety/respect etc of ALL concerned. So what, if you get your toes stepped on... Its happened to me before, get over it!!

How about "some" of us take a LONG HARD look at ourselves before we start pointing the finger at others!

meh,
love the grey
 
I'll agree we should allow users to put mods on their ignore lists but not with special privileged invisible mod accounts. Even so it would be pointless. The purpose of the ignore list is to show how ineffective it is to ignore things, and ineffective it is. Nobody has ever been on my ignore list.

There are positive trade-offs to forcing the mods to use their mod accounts for posting. First, it keeps them real, keeps their responses up-front. Would you really want to give mods invisibility when they disagree with you? As an example of potential abuse I recently got negative rep from fake user 'You', the invisible. That is the same thing you will be repeatedly open to from mods if you don't stop acting like a big victim and work with it. Do you believe God is on your side? Why should mods be expected to do God's work? I have given negative rep to a mod, have you?

I know!!! Let's all write our congressman/woman and they will do something! No, no let's get Spiderman!
 
I'm a moderator. I had no idea people couldn't ignore me. News to me. Personally, I'd be fine with people having me on an ignore list. It makes no difference to me. Yes, some people would miss the warning "Please refrain from personal attacks" general messages or whatever, but I suppose they could be PM'd through a general mod account or whatever. I don't really understand the limitations of the website itself, so I don't know what the technical solution is. But I do know I don't care if I'm ignored. Some people have already told me they flip past my posts. That's OK. It's not like what I have to say would be interesting or useful to everyone anyway. Such is the nature of life.

Second, to answer CZZ's question- we don't get paid. Why do it at all, then? Well, I do this for free because I value interfaith dialogue and I'm grateful to have somewhere I can have some interesting conversation. Plus, I read and type quickly, so it doesn't tax my time too much. I'm also a mod on another site that isn't related to interfaith at all, and none of us get paid there, either. I don't know if anyone gets paid anywhere for moderating. It's more like a hobby.

I don't like everything about this site. I don't really know anyone who likes everything about any community, virtual or otherwise. I just figure you find whatever community works best for your purposes and put up with stuff you don't like. And if there's too much stuff you don't like about somewhere, you find another place. I've done it in the past, even with online communities I was a member in for years. No one is forced to be anywhere and converse with anyone. So it is a mystery to me why anyone would waste time with a community that annoys or perturbs them unless the benefits outweigh the costs.

It's free to start your own proboards discussion board, by the way. I've done it before for classes and for small group discussion with family/friends. You can even decide if it is open to everyone or only to approved members. So if someone has a vision for a different type of community, I don't see any reason why people aren't generating their own community with their own rules (or lack thereof) and so on. That is, I see no reason why except laziness. It's a lot of work to set up and maintain online discussion forums. So people tend to like to complain about ones that already exist rather than setting up their own.

Websites belong to the person who creates and maintains them. If someone wants something according to their own vision, why not just create your own?
 
I don't like everything about this site.

About the only thing I don't like about this site is that there are too many British members!!!

So when I'm looking for a conversation, they're all tucked in bed asleep.

It really cheeses me off.
 
My question, was totally tongue-in-cheek.

I know that volunteers don't get paid.

They do it for the prestige and international fame. ;)

LOL-figured I'd address it, just in case. LOL

Yes, I do it for the acclaim, honors, and of course, applause. Or at least, the imagined applause. :p
 
I'll agree we should allow users to put mods on their ignore lists but not with special privileged invisible mod accounts. Even so it would be pointless. The purpose of the ignore list is to show how ineffective it is to ignore things, and ineffective it is. Nobody has ever been on my ignore list.

There are positive trade-offs to forcing the mods to use their mod accounts for posting. First, it keeps them real, keeps their responses up-front. Would you really want to give mods invisibility when they disagree with you? As an example of potential abuse I recently got negative rep from fake user 'You', the invisible. That is the same thing you will be repeatedly open to from mods if you don't stop acting like a big victim and work with it. Do you believe God is on your side? Why should mods be expected to do God's work? I have given negative rep to a mod, have you?

I know!!! Let's all write our congressman/woman and they will do something! No, no let's get Spiderman!

Dude, Wolverine would kick Spidey's butt.
 
My question, was totally tongue-in-cheek.

I know that volunteers don't get paid.

They do it for the prestige and international fame. ;)

I do it for the cupcakes.

cupcakes.jpg
 
What a relief, that you don't even have to pay a dishonest criminal. A criminal is a volunteer, and will do their deed for free... as a public service.
 
What a relief, that you don't even have to pay a dishonest criminal.

Dude. You are like the God of cynics. :rolleyes:

Try repeating to yourself, "It's just an internet forum. It's just an internet forum."
 
About the only thing I don't like about this site is that there are too many British members!!!

So when I'm looking for a conversation, they're all tucked in bed asleep.

It really cheeses me off.
Ouch!... :)
 
Makes it kind of complicated, but moderators are only there to help keep the place running smoothly - and if you feel that anyone is abusing their position, just let me know.

I dont think it would take long to dismantle the class system on this forum say 10 minutes. Its not that I feel that mods are abusing they're positions but some are quite prolific and opinionated in their posting and if I cant ignore them if that is my choice then what we have is a two tier system.

what do you think ?
 
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