Top 10 required movies.

Snoopy said:
Phyllis, I think you need to brush up on your character assessment skills :p

s.
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Yeah, you're right, especially after the male was arrested three years later for kidnapping and attempted murder (not that I blame the movie, but the movie gave me some insight into his lack of character.)

Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
 
Tao_Equus said:
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Its a lie. I liked 2001 and read the book. 2010 was ok, however I haven't seen any of his other notorious films. I haven't seen Free Willy, Scooby Doo, or most of all of 6 String Samurai either. I only saw Horror of Clonus within Mystery Science Theatre 3000. I no see um. That's why they are all no-see-ums.
 
Tao_Equus said:
Not in any particular order...

IP5
Betty Blue
Salvador
How To Get A Head In Advertising
2001 A Space Odyssey
Good Bye Pork Pie
Once Were Warriors
Delicatessen
The Matrix
Eraserhead
The Concrete Garden




I know there is eleven..... sorry I'm a bit dizzy : p
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An error there, that last film should read "The Cement Garden".

And here is a clip from my fav movie of all time and first on the list "IP5".
It stars Yves Montand in his last ever movie.
YouTube - IP5 - L´ile aux pachydermes - "C´est Jesus???"
 
Dream said:
Its a lie. I liked 2001 and read the book. 2010 was ok, however I haven't seen any of his other notorious films.
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2010 doesn't have anything to do with Kubrick I don't think. Fans of 2001 derisively referred to 2010 as "Ten Past Eight." ;)

Aside from perhaps Clockwork Orange I didn't know his films were considered "notorious." :eek:

Other than 2001, I've seen Paths of Glory, Spartacus, Barry Lyndon, The Shining and Full Metal Jacket. Thought The Shining was rather disapponting but the others are all excellent films IMO.

s.
 
Snoopy said:
2010 doesn't have anything to do with Kubrick I don't think. Fans of 2001 derisively referred to 2010 as "Ten Past Eight." ;)
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I must be in the minority of dual fans who both like 2001 and 2010, but I like each for different reasons. And while I like 2010, one will notice I didn't put it on my "required" list.

I think this may highlight an important consideration. My list of ten (plus!) required films for others would be quite different from my own personal favorite list. I deliberately left off of a list that tries to be as all inclusive and wide-ranging as possible such noteworthy films as A Man Called Horse, Smoke Signals and the Education of Little Tree. <subtle plug...>

Snoopy said:
Aside from perhaps Clockwork Orange I didn't know his films were considered "notorious." :eek:

Other than 2001, I've seen Paths of Glory, Spartacus, Barry Lyndon, The Shining and Full Metal Jacket. Thought The Shining was rather disapponting but the others are all excellent films IMO.
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I like Kubrick, and was truly looking forward to him directing A.I., but he passed away before having a chance to do that film.

I have not seen Paths of Glory, or Barry Lyndon. After so many years of hype I finally saw A Clockwork Orange, and was soundly disappointed. Other than some prescient glimpses at social evolution a la George Orwell, I really failed to get the gist. The Shining was OK as far as horror movies go, but I have seen far better and more entertaining. Likewise, Full Metal Jacket was OK for a war movie, but I have seen better and more entertaining. Spartacus is the exception in this list, I watched again only the other day. It was a phenomenal movie then, it remains a phenomenal movie now. But I am surprized Eyes Wide Shut is not on the list, let alone for its notoriety. Again, it is not a "must see" movie, but it is a movie capable of instilling disturbing thoughts about human characters and their flaws. Not Kubrick's best, but certainly among those he has done that get people to think, and ultimately I think that was Kubrick's niche and what set him apart from other directors.
 
juantoo3 said:
After so many years of hype I finally saw A Clockwork Orange, and was soundly disappointed.
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That does not surprise me. CO is a profoundly English film of the surealist early 60s and at the time was very avant garde. Not till a decade later would you see anything resembling it and then there was a profusion with everything from The Prisoner to Thunderbirds wholesale theiving from the atmospherics created in CO. I intensely dislike the film, but I recognise its genius.
 
Tao_Equus said:
That does not surprise me. CO is a profoundly English film of the surealist early 60s and at the time was very avant garde. Not till a decade later would you see anything resembling it and then there was a profusion with everything from The Prisoner to Thunderbirds wholesale theiving from the atmospherics created in CO. I intensely dislike the film, but I recognise its genius.
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I hadn't really considered it in those terms, but I think I see what you are saying. Which makes me think that maybe Kubrick didn't want his audience to like the movie.

Frankly, I took it to be a warning...a warning somehow he knew would be ignored. And wouldn't you know, thirty years later he's right on the button!
 
I guess it is impossible to see "Clockwork Orange" now, and see what I saw when it was new.
It is sort of like the young whippersnappers who don't like Tolkien because all that fantasy-world stuff about elves and hobbits and orcs is so cliche', not realizing that that whole style of fantasy didn't exist until Tolkien created it.
 
Scrooge (1951)

In my humble opinion, this is one of the greatest movies ever made. Not because it is about Christmas, not because it displays my idea of Hell beautifully and accurately, but because it shows how a warm, tender, loving man becomes a cold-hearted monster. For example, the scene where young Scrooge proposes to his sweetheart is one of the most heart-warming love scenes ever shown in a movie. And, later, their breakup scene is very realistic. It shows how divorces really happen. (It also suggests how two people can avoid divorce, but does so in a concealed way.)

Watch this movie again, but this time on a "human interpersonal" level. You will see things about human nature that you didn't know were in the movie.
 
juantoo3 said:
I must be in the minority of dual fans who both like 2001 and 2010, but I like each for different reasons. And while I like 2010, one will notice I didn't put it on my "required" list.
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I saw 2010 (I think!) and read the book cos I was a fan of science fiction at the time. I’m sure I agree with you; with my elitist snob hat on I’d say 2010 was “just another film” (made because MGM wanted to cash in with a sequel) whereas 2001 stands as a piece of cinematic art. Kubrick wanted to create the ultimate science fiction film and I think he succeeded.


I have not seen Paths of Glory, or Barry Lyndon. After so many years of hype I finally saw A Clockwork Orange, and was soundly disappointed. Other than some prescient glimpses at social evolution a la George Orwell, I really failed to get the gist. The Shining was OK as far as horror movies go, but I have seen far better and more entertaining. Likewise, Full Metal Jacket was OK for a war movie, but I have seen better and more entertaining.
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Horror films are not really my thing (The Shining) I always think they are aimed at teenagers. Real horror films deal with reality, like war. I saw The Shining when I was a whipper snapper who liked Stephen King novels…

The training section of FMJ is the best part of the film but the second half isn’t that convincing (filmed on the outskirts of London as it is! – because Kubrick wouldn’t leave the UK I think).


Paths of Glory and Barry Lyndon I’ve only seen very recently at a Kubrick season.

Paths of Glory is extremely good, an anti war film that is (depressingly) based on a real incident that almost beggars belief.

If 2001 was Kubrick’s attempt at the ultimate science fiction film then Barry Lyndon is probably his attempt at the ultimate (very long!) period drama. It’s a sort of rake’s progress (based on the novel by William Makepeace Thackeray) and he went to incredible lengths apparently to achieve authenticity (just one example – he wanted to use only candlelight for the night scenes for the correct colours and so had special lenses made by Zeiss to achieve this!!!) Another work of art, I’d say.


His other films I've not seen.


s.
 
Nick the Pilot said:
Scrooge (1951)

In my humble opinion, this is one of the greatest movies ever made.

You will see things about human nature that you didn't know were in the movie.
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Hear hear! But I will go you one further. Look past the idea of Christmas ghosts...particularly the spirit of Christmas present...and listen closely to what that one has to say when he draws back his cape to expose the two waifs at his ankles.
I don't know how closely this version is to Dicken's original story, but I sense it is pretty darn close. The movie is insightful to human nature on a list of levels. The movie is rich with symbolism that far transcends Christmas.
 
juantoo3,

Here is what the Ghost of Christmas Present says:

The two waifs at the feet of The Ghost of Christmas Present

(This is the last scene of Scrooge and The Ghost of Christmas Present together.)

Scrooge: "Where are you taking me now?"

Ghost of Christmas Present: "My time with you, Ebenezer, is almost done. Will you profit by what I have shown you, of the good in most men’s hearts?"

Scrooge: "I don’t know. How can I promise?"

Ghost of Christmas Present: "If it’s too hard a lesson for you to learn, then learn this lesson." (He shows two starving children sitting at his feet.)

Scrooge: "Spirit, are these [children] yours?"

Ghost of Christmas Present: "They are man’s. They cling to me for protection from their fetters. This boy is ignorance, the girl is want. Beware them both, but most of all, beware of this boy."

Scrooge: "But have they no refuge? No resource?"

Ghost of Christmas Present: "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?" (The Ghost of Christmas Present is now mocking Scrooge for having said these very same words earlier in the movie.)
 
That's the one!

Beware ignorance and want, most of all ignorance...

and Scrooge's realization of his role in promoting these social evils...truly classic, art meets philosophy, on a scale seldom attained.
 
"...truly classic, art meets philosophy, on a scale seldom attained."

Yes, it is truly one of the top 100 movies of all time.
 
wil said:
If I were only allowed to give a person a list of 10 movies to watch what would the 10 be?
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I tend to favor ... morally complicated films.

1. Day of Wrath
2. The Reckless Moment
3. Spy In Black
4. Ripley's Game
5. The Image
6. Oasis
7. Ramrod
8. Vampyres
9. Fort Apache
10. Mean Streets

I've lost friends forcing them to sit thru movies I like.
(Fair warning. Not everyone's cup of tea, these.)

& & &

Day of Wrath
(Carl Dreyer, 1943 Denmark)

The Reckless Moment
(Max Ophuls, 1949 USA)

Spy In Black
(Michael Powell,1939 UK)

Ripley's Game
(Liliana Cavani, 2002 Italy/UK/USA)

The Image
(aka The Punishment of Anne)
(Radley Metzger, 1975 USA)

Oasis
(LEE Chang-dong, 2002 Korea)

Ramrod
(Andre De Toth, 1947 USA)

Vampyres
(Joseph Larraz, 1972 UK)

Fort Apache
(John Ford, 1948 USA)

Mean Streets
(Martin Scorsese, 1973 USA)

(WARNING: The Image and Vampyres are not for kiddies.)


 
Dondi said:
Fiddler on the Roof? You DO have some class, Alex. :cool:

I couldn't get into We Were Soldiers. It just seemed too much of a blood bath.

Children of Men was good. Quite unexpected turns in that one.

My list coming forth.
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Bit of everything(in moderation) is needed to appreciate everything...(of course, in moderation...) Fiddler on the roof is the best musical of all time this is without a doubt... I enjoy musicals very much so, King and I, Chitty bang bang, Sound of music and so on and so forth, but Fiddler is my ultimate musical.

We were soldiers, is awesome, it has two very meaningful messages/values.... Perhaps without experiencing the role of Soldier they can be missed... But I assure you, it was much more than a blood bath.

Children of men... My favourite scene... Is when the military surround the block of flats... And then they bring the child out and everything goes silent... The fighting ceases... And they all look upon this child of hope... And that touches me that moment...
 
Casablanca (1942)

This is a great movie, first of all because I think it is one of the greatest love stories ever portrayed in a movie. But secondly, because Ingrid Bergman does such a fantastic job of acting. Her abillity to show different emotions on her face is just amazing. Watch as the expression on her face changes from happiness, to fear, to guilt, to surprise, etc. I actually recommend people who are studying body language to watch this movie, because Ingrid has such a wide number of emotions she can express through her facial expressions.
 
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