Re: Jesus is not God...................
Ok, I've written and then erased my response many times because I cannot find a way to make not sound condescending if not a bit insulting. So I am sorry for not speaking my mind freely. All I can say simply is that in the context of God, with a capital G, God or any portion thereof, if you are so inclined, cannot suffer, period. If He did then He might as well be a masochist, have a depression, or commit suicide. I know, I know, everything is possible!
As for the suffering as a man portion of your answer, then explain this to me as an aside, and do not take it as an attack. As the story goes, when they opened the tomb of Jesus they did not find his body in it. I presume they found his shroud which is the basis for the legend behind the shroud of Turin, and many others. Now, does this tell us that Jesus was resurrected, as the word implies, in the body but without signs of the torture except what Hollywood portrays as the wounds from nailing his hands and feet to the cross (as a sign, I presume)? So, his body, even before transformation into divinity because he had not been to the Father yet, was not like our human bodies. It healed instantly when they closed the tomb as Mel Gibson showed us in one very good cinematic trick. I know I do not heal in a couple of hours from deep cuts and sever wounds, not to mention death. So, is it possible that such a super body, much like Superman, did not feel pain or suffering the same way we regular humans do? And if he did at his own, or the Father’s, choosing then it is not the same as when you and I feel pain? Also, his body of flesh was later transformed into something else, something divine, but without shedding itself. No one has ever claimed that they either had found his body of flesh discarded somewhere or that they saw his body of flesh vanish into dust of light like when Scotty beams us humans on Star Trek. I know that our normal bodies do not transform into something else other than worm food and lots of water. In summary, could you concede that as far as half Gods go he probably did not suffer at all even in the flesh? As for appearances, what did you expect as a performance from a divine actor? It must have been a great chance for him to show off his divine talents. A one in an eternal-time chance to impress his Father. But in the end, an actor does not really suffer in his/her performances. It is all make belief and at the end of the work day they go home safe to their spouses and children, if any.
Again, forget the first part of my response, but please respond to my second part. Forgive my style as I am not being a bad boy but my normal self is much sarcastic.
Quahom1 said:
Ok, I've written and then erased my response many times because I cannot find a way to make not sound condescending if not a bit insulting. So I am sorry for not speaking my mind freely. All I can say simply is that in the context of God, with a capital G, God or any portion thereof, if you are so inclined, cannot suffer, period. If He did then He might as well be a masochist, have a depression, or commit suicide. I know, I know, everything is possible!
As for the suffering as a man portion of your answer, then explain this to me as an aside, and do not take it as an attack. As the story goes, when they opened the tomb of Jesus they did not find his body in it. I presume they found his shroud which is the basis for the legend behind the shroud of Turin, and many others. Now, does this tell us that Jesus was resurrected, as the word implies, in the body but without signs of the torture except what Hollywood portrays as the wounds from nailing his hands and feet to the cross (as a sign, I presume)? So, his body, even before transformation into divinity because he had not been to the Father yet, was not like our human bodies. It healed instantly when they closed the tomb as Mel Gibson showed us in one very good cinematic trick. I know I do not heal in a couple of hours from deep cuts and sever wounds, not to mention death. So, is it possible that such a super body, much like Superman, did not feel pain or suffering the same way we regular humans do? And if he did at his own, or the Father’s, choosing then it is not the same as when you and I feel pain? Also, his body of flesh was later transformed into something else, something divine, but without shedding itself. No one has ever claimed that they either had found his body of flesh discarded somewhere or that they saw his body of flesh vanish into dust of light like when Scotty beams us humans on Star Trek. I know that our normal bodies do not transform into something else other than worm food and lots of water. In summary, could you concede that as far as half Gods go he probably did not suffer at all even in the flesh? As for appearances, what did you expect as a performance from a divine actor? It must have been a great chance for him to show off his divine talents. A one in an eternal-time chance to impress his Father. But in the end, an actor does not really suffer in his/her performances. It is all make belief and at the end of the work day they go home safe to their spouses and children, if any.
Again, forget the first part of my response, but please respond to my second part. Forgive my style as I am not being a bad boy but my normal self is much sarcastic.
