agnosticism

Etu Malku said:
Seattlegal,

Edward must be forgiven, for He knows not what he does or says.
Edward's psychological makeup is one of Right Hand Path and indoctrination. He cannot see any further than what he has been told to see, to feel, to Be.
I feel not contempt for such a non-individual as Edward, but rather compassion in that someday He may break free from the chains of ignorance and delusion, and embrace His True Being which is not the Being from a fabricated archetypal structure such as the Abrahamic god.
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I can still make observations. :)
 
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Edward Palamar said:
Chapter 20. Of the Senses, and Their Pleasures in the Brutes and in Man; And of Pleasures of the Eyes, and Spectacles.

For when God forbids us to kill, He not only prohibits us from open violence, which is not even allowed by the public laws, but He warns us against the commission of those things which are esteemed lawful among men. Thus it will be neither lawful for a just man to engage in warfare, since his warfare is justice itself, nor to accuse any one of a capital charge, because it makes no difference whether you put a man to death by word, or rather by the sword, since it is the act of putting to death itself which is prohibited. Therefore, with regard to this precept of God, there ought to be no exception at all; but that it is always unlawful to put to death a man, whom God willed to be a sacred animal.
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False. What words bring death? The same words that bring sin?
 
luecy7 said:
False. What words bring death? The same words that bring sin?
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The only words I know of are:
-pull the plug
-kill him
-bring me the head of . . . etc.

Or of course the many many passages from the bible that order killing/murder:

-God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).

-God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. -He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).

-He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6).

-In (Judges 21) He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead

-In (2 Kings 10:18-27) God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!
 
Etu Malku said:
Seattlegal,

Edward must be forgiven, for He knows not what he does or says.
Edward's psychological makeup is one of Right Hand Path and indoctrination. He cannot see any further than what he has been told to see, to feel, to Be.
I feel not contempt for such a non-individual as Edward, but rather compassion in that someday He may break free from the chains of ignorance and delusion, and embrace His True Being which is not the Being from a fabricated archetypal structure such as the Abrahamic god.
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And thank you for your non-statement just the same. I am not an agnostic.
 
wil said:
Alrighty roo...

You tell us you live there....and it is a physical place....

What does it look like?

Do you have skin?

Do you have air?

Are aliens (intelligent life from another planet) there as well?

Do plants grow?

Are they saved?

Do you eat?

How do you get around?

Internal combustion engines, like the jetsons, or think your way from spot to spot.

Is it in this universe?

What is your nearest star?
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IowaGuy said:
Edward - since you have been to heaven, you are in a unique position to clear up a few ongoing questions in Catholicism, in addition to Wil's questions:

1.) are there any babies in heaven that died before they were baptised?

2.) Catholics are said to have invented the concept of purgatory, which is not mentioned in the bible. Does purgatory exist and where is it located?

3.) Are there any Native American people in heaven, those born before Jesus' time? Are there any Jews in heaven?
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Edward Palamar said:
That is just what agnosticism tells you - like the dope dealer - that your mind will be opened - just like the serpent devil.

"GROW A BRAIN, NICKY!"
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You were given your chance to shine....to illumine us, but instead this is your response?

Seriously? This is the response of a reincarnated John the Baptist that came to provide us heathens with answers...

You are failing miserably to date, it appears to me that unless you change your tune quickly it will be the collective opinion that you are not fit to change the sandals of anyone here.
 
Etu Malku said:
The only words I know of are:
-pull the plug
-kill him
-bring me the head of . . . etc.

Or of course the many many passages from the bible that order killing/murder:

-God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).

-God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. -He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).

-He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6).

-In (Judges 21) He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead

-In (2 Kings 10:18-27) God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!
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By your understanding, God has killed pretty much everbody. Why do you limit it to what you read in a book?
 
seattlegal said:
Looks like you are just looking to kick people around, Edward.
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It is the dehumanizing and demoralizing aspects of agnosticism which you are not taking into account, sg. It is those aspects which seek to do the greatest damage. Man is a creature of God, but not so to the agnostic. The agnostic premise that man is not a creature of God is presented at the level of the intellect. It is the agnostic who kicks at that juncture of man and God, without relent, and without mercy. This is obviously something viewed by you as trite and insignificant. But, like I said, if that be your final decision, you may as well just swallow your head into oblivion, as the agnostic has won.
 
Edward Palamar said:
It is the dehumanizing and demoralizing aspects of agnosticism which you are not taking into account, sg. It is those aspects which seek to do the greatest damage. Man is a creature of God, but not so to the agnostic. The agnostic premise that man is not a creature of God is presented at the level of the intellect. It is the agnostic who kicks at that juncture of man and God, without relent, and without mercy.
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What in the heck are you talking about? You are attributing the aspects of a debunker to the agnostic.
This is obviously something viewed by you as trite and insignificant.
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No, it is viewed by me as totally mistaken.
But, like I said, if that be your final decision, you may as well just swallow your head into oblivion, as the agnostic has won.
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LOL. That so-called and proclaimed "decision" is is a product/fabrication of your mind, not mine. :p
 
wil said:
I believe the parable is an indication of the faith he provided in abundance.
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The past tense can serve a good purpose, as well as the overall interpolation that the parable is only about faith. But the physical reality was that fishes and loaves were miraculously multiplied, as the water was turned into wine at the marriage at Cana :

15"And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying: This is a desert place, and the hour is now past: send away the multitudes, that going into the towns, they may buy themselves victuals."

They weren't just thinking lack, there was lack, and Christ multiplied the food in the performing of the miracle.

Case in point : if one presents the facts in a tainted way, one then, seemingly, may draw tainted conclusions, which is the hallmark of agnosticism.
 
Edward Palamar said:
It is the dehumanizing and demoralizing aspects of agnosticism which you are not taking into account, sg. It is those aspects which seek to do the greatest damage. Man is a creature of God, but not so to the agnostic. The agnostic premise that man is not a creature of God is presented at the level of the intellect. It is the agnostic who kicks at that juncture of man and God, without relent, and without mercy. This is obviously something viewed by you as trite and insignificant. But, like I said, if that be your final decision, you may as well just swallow your head into oblivion, as the agnostic has won.
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seattlegal said:
What in the heck are you talking about? You are attributing the aspects of a debunker to the agnostic.

No, it is viewed by me as totally mistaken.

LOL. That so-called and proclaimed "decision" is is a product/fabrication of your mind, not mine. :p
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Edward Palamar said:
Case in point : if one presents the facts in a tainted way, one then, seemingly, may draw tainted conclusions, which is the hallmark of agnosticism.
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LOL, I just love irony. :cool:
 
IowaGuy said:
Do you think Christ is handling the population issue?
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Most definitely. As one slain through physical agnosticism (beheading), Christ has not only raised me from the dead whole, He allows me to refute the continued mental beheading which is agnosticism.
 
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