Boston Bombers Muslim??

[kaoticprofit]

19 men from Saudi Arabia...attacked us... out of abillion muslims...most are nonviolent...if they were not....the war you propose would be over...and you and I would be dead.

Did we attack Saudi Arabia? No. Did Iraq have ANYTHING to do with 9/11 a country where we went in and killed tens of thousands of innocent civilians?? No.

First of all Deuteronomy 17 is instruction to the judges of Israel. Unlike Islam where its followers just kill people indiscriminately. The judges also needed the testimony of two or three witnesses. Also, the objective God had in choosing Israel was to preserve the knowledge and worship of the one true God Jehovah!

Islam is the "moon god religion." Even though Islam wasn't around back then (thanks be to God) the Judges of Israel were told to bring moon worshipers and the like to justice.

There's very little justice in the lawless religion of Islam. Muslim's simply take things into their own hands like they did on 911.

Another difference is that the judges were commanded to make sure that any Israelites who went after idolatry should be investigated, and if found guilty, go before a judge, have the testimony of at least 2-3 witnesses, and then if found guilty, be put to death.

Unlike Islam where "everyone who is a non Muslim" is an infidel and Muslims are encouraged to kill them "wherever they find them." No judges, no trial, no witnesses, no justice! And the witnesses had to be so certain of what they saw that they had to be willing to initiate the actual execution. This puts the words of Jesus regarding the woman taken in adultery in John 8 in perspective.

John 8:7 He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.

Jesus asked for the official witness to step forward and identify themselves on record as having witnessed this act of adultery, yet the mob was hypocritical enough to bring the woman and not the man.

And if you read further into chapter 14 you'll see that there was an appeal process! These were higher courts where cases were taken beyond the local judges to the priests and the Levites who were understood to be wiser judges because of their knowledge of God's Word

Another thing is that the book of Deuteronomy is under the Old Testament law. Since Jesus Christ has come, died and was crucified, and risen the third day, Israel is no longer under that law! And neither are we as Christians.

 

[wil]

An appeal process??? You mean like verse 60???

And you must be without sin...based on the stones you are throwing by heaping a billion muslims in with the worst of the tribe...

I should judge you by the actions of the Christian KKK and abortion clinic bombers??

Yes...Jesus has come....and he asks...and who is your neighbor???

 

[Paladin]

I never said that we should imprison people based solely on their religion. Whether religion, politics, or anything else, anyone or any organization that teaches to and kills NON members (called infidels in Islam)...or kills to obtain the goal of conversion and world domination by the thousands, should be banned from the USA.

Ah! Well, thank you for clearing that up. So If I understand you correctly, any political, religious, or even social organization that promotes the marginalization, or mistreatment of non-members or even perhaps, those that think differently, should be banned in the US?

 

[kaoticprofit]

Ah! Well, thank you for clearing that up. So If I understand you correctly, any political, religious, or even social organization that promotes the marginalization, or mistreatment of non-members or even perhaps, those that think differently, should be banned in the US?

You don't get what I'm saying at all. You're understanding is flawed. Or maybe you just don't want to admit what Islam is truly like! You should have included "murder by the thousands" in your reply.

I have no problem with Hindu's, Buddhist, or any other political, religious, or social organization who practices their 'ideology' peacefully because they are not murderers or in the process of "domination by abomination." They don't cut peoples heads off in the streets, fly planes into buildings, commit honor killings, or crucify Christians to trees or set them on fire in the streets. They don't send women with disabilities into pet shops with bird cages and remotely detonate them. Get it?

I know that not all Muslims are terrorist. But nearly all terrorist are Muslim!

 

[kaoticprofit]

An appeal process??? You mean like verse 60???

And you must be without sin...based on the stones you are throwing by heaping a billion muslims in with the worst of the tribe...

I should judge you by the actions of the Christian KKK and abortion clinic bombers??

Yes...Jesus has come....and he asks...and who is your neighbor???

I've never said or claimed I was without sin. That's a false judgment on your part.

Every Muslim is encouraged to get out of Islam. God loves them as much as he loves any of us. It's just sad that many of them are caught up into such an oppressive religion. Many Muslim's want nothing more than to get out of Islam but fear the consequences. Jesus Christ is revealing Himself to many Muslims today by dreams and miracles.

We have two witnesses who are prophesied to come in the book of Revelation. They will call for Muslims to repent and get out of Islam. They will be murdered by Muslim's are their bodies left out in the streets. After three days they will come back to life. If Muslim's who don't repent and get out of Islam they will receive the plagues prophesied for them in Revelation 14.

 

[kaoticprofit]

On Interfaiths home page this is the first headline....

Latest Interfaith News:
Persecution of Evangelical Christians intensifies in Iran

There is growing concern that the harassment of Iranian Christians is reaching new levels, with Christian activities increasingly being classified as ‘actions against the security of the state’. Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW), which works for religious freedom through advocacy and human rights, has received reports that an official campaign to convert Christian prisoners to Islam is underway. Pastor Youcef Nadarkhani,...
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Three Baha'is stabbed in Iran, apparently a religious hate crime - Bahá'í World News Service.
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You guys need to come to your senses when it comes to Islam and stop defending such an oppressive religion.

http://www.blacksheepprophecies.com/

 

[wil]

Let's see....we established our Shah in Iran and ran that country from our borders (no imperialism there eh?) When they kicked us out and the Ayatolla took over (our control of their nation gave the religious fundies the ability to point at our oppression) so we started funding, arming and training Sadam and his army to fight the Iranians (and then we turned on that man we created...you know...the one that you say we invaded due to 9/11) and we've been pushing on sanctions against Iran for how long???

And you wonder why they retaliate???

Really????

Who was the first suicide bomber? (hint it wasn't them that sailed a death ship into our port and it was long before kamakazis)

Oh, my you have a page spreading your 'christian' hate and intolerance??? Jesus ain't lettin you into heaven for disobeying him like that...amazing...

Do you not have enough traffic so you come to an interfaith site to find more?? Really???

I'll pray for you....and your followers.

 

[kaoticprofit]

Let's see....we established our Shah in Iran and ran that country from our borders (no imperialism there eh?) When they kicked us out and the Ayatolla took over (our control of their nation gave the religious fundies the ability to point at our oppression) so we started funding, arming and training Sadam and his army to fight the Iranians (and then we turned on that man we created...you know...the one that you say we invaded due to 9/11) and we've been pushing on sanctions against Iran for how long???

And you wonder why they retaliate???

Really????

Who was the first suicide bomber? (hint it wasn't them that sailed a death ship into our port and it was long before kamakazis)

Oh, my you have a page spreading your 'christian' hate and intolerance??? Jesus ain't lettin you into heaven for disobeying him like that...amazing...

Do you not have enough traffic so you come to an interfaith site to find more?? Really???

I'll pray for you....and your followers.

And I'll pray for you to get out of your deception and denial.

What you posted is true about the Shah and the foolish things the US did with him. I will never condone the stupid things the U.S. government has done in that part of the world. However, this has nothing to do with, "Islamic retaliation."

Islam has been at war with mankind since it's inception. I can give you a list of wars committed by Islam since then if you like but it would be a very long page.

I'm getting between 3500 and 6500 hits a month on my web site and it's only been up for less than a year.

Listen to the words spoken in 2 Baruch 48:37 in relevance to Islam, terrorism and suicide bombers.

"Envy shall rise in those who had no though of themselves, and passion shall rise in him who was peaceful. Many shall be stirred up in anger to injure many, and they shall rouse up all men in order to shed blood, and in the end they will all perish together."

2 Baruch 70:2-8 say's,

"They shall hate one another, and they shall provoke one another to fight. Some of them shall fall in battle, and some of them shall perish in anguish, and some of them shall be destroyed by their own."

Muslim's have the tendency of building their mosque on top of other religious sites. Especially those they purchased or have destroyed. Muslims also think that when they kill people in an Allah Akbar they are doing Allah's will.

John 16:2-3  They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

Remember these guys???

Terrorists in Pakistan video recorded the beheading of American reporter Daniel Pearl.

Terrorists in Iraq video recorded the beheading of American Nicholas Berg.

Beheading is a common form of execution in Islam and it's the preferred method of execution utilized by the beast mentioned in the book of Revelation.

Beheading is also a common way to conduct a so-called "honor killing" – the murder of a wife or a sibling – throughout the Islamic world.

The question Americans need to consider very carefully is whether they want this kind of "cultural diversity" in their country.

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Please visit: BEHOLD THE BEAST

ISRAEL IN BIBLE PROPHECY

ISLAM AND THE TRUTH

 

[Ahanu]

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Three Baha'is stabbed in Iran, apparently a religious hate crime - Bahá'í World News Service.
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You guys need to come to your senses when it comes to Islam and stop defending such an oppressive religion.

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"For every excellent thing, peerless though it may be, can still be diverted to the wrong ends. A lighted lamp in the hands of an ignorant child or of the blind will not dispel the surrounding darkness nor light up the house—it will set both the bearer and the house on fire. Can we, in such an instance, blame the lamp? No, by the Lord God! To the seeing, a lamp is a guide and will show him his path; but it is a disaster to the blind."
-Abdu'l-Baha

 

[Paladin]

You don't get what I'm saying at all. You're understanding is flawed. Or maybe you just don't want to admit what Islam is truly like! You should have included "murder by the thousands" in your reply.

I have no problem with Hindu's, Buddhist, or any other political, religious, or social organization who practices their 'ideology' peacefully because they are not murderers or in the process of "domination by abomination." They don't cut peoples heads off in the streets, fly planes into buildings, commit honor killings, or crucify Christians to trees or set them on fire in the streets. They don't send women with disabilities into pet shops with bird cages and remotely detonate them. Get it?

I know that not all Muslims are terrorist. But nearly all terrorist are Muslim!

Okay, that's helpful. I'm aware that I don't fully understand what you mean, that's why I'm asking questions. Is it okay if I ask you questions to better understand you? I'm not trying to criticize or demean your point of view, I just want to be sure I'm understanding you correctly, so thank for the feedback.
So if I'm hearing you correctly, do we need to ban all Muslims or just the bad ones?

 

[A Cup Of Tea]

I know that not all Muslims are terrorist. But nearly all terrorist are Muslim!

Well that's so obviously wrong even you should realise it, don't you agree?

 

[wil]

The difference between a terrorist, a patriot/freedom fighter is what side you are on.

This is explained extremely clearly when you go to Philadelphia, Independence Hall on the tour where the Declaration of Independence was written, or over to the Liberty Bell location and watch the movie on the rebels revolting against the gov't...you know...the fight that formed the United States.

 

[kaoticprofit]

Here's my answer to your OP.

To me, if the Westboro Baptist Church, or the KKK or anyone uses the bible as an assault weapon to rally the troops and get folks to committ atrocities or acts of stupidity it is time for Christians to distance themselves from the teachings of the preachers of hate, intolerance and violence.

The difference is that WBC's beliefs are their very own. They are not part of a global network of extremist. Their hate and intolerance is limited to themselves. The WBC is not part of a global religion with a terrorist network with world domination as it's ultimate goal.

Islamic extremism has developed into millions of people willing to die for or support the cause of Allah.

Reports are that The Lord of Lords has been revealing himself to Muslim's lately, especially in the Arab Middle-East. Many of them are now calling on "ISA" and He is responding. ISA knows the oppressive conditions of His people living in Islam. Muslims have been receiving dreams and visions of Jesus Christ. He has been healing many of His beloved people that call on Him. They are the "the sons and daughters of Abraham" so when they call upon His Name and turn to Him, he proves Himself as to who He is and to whom they should turn to.

2Ch 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

 

[donnann]

Here's my answer to your OP.



The difference is that WBC's beliefs are their very own. They are not part of a global network of extremist. Their hate and intolerance is limited to themselves. The WBC is not part of a global religion with a terrorist network with world domination as it's ultimate goal.

Islamic extremism has developed into millions of people willing to die for or support the cause of Allah.

Reports are that The Lord of Lords has been revealing himself to Muslim's lately, especially in the Arab Middle-East. Many of them are now calling on "ISA" and He is responding. ISA knows the oppressive conditions of His people living in Islam. Muslims have been receiving dreams and visions of Jesus Christ. He has been healing many of His beloved people that call on Him. They are the "the sons and daughters of Abraham" so when they call upon His Name and turn to Him, he proves Himself as to who He is and to whom they should turn to.

2Ch 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

What visions are they having of him? Do you have a source on the subject I can read?

 

[Gordian Knot]

In particular I would love to see the source information that justifies this sentence:

Islamic extremism has developed into millions of people willing to die for or support the cause of Allah.

 

[kaoticprofit]

In particular I would love to see the source information that justifies this sentence:

Islamic extremism has developed into millions of people willing to die for or support the cause of Allah.

One source of information comes from Daniel Pipes' blog.

Daniel Pipes is an American historian, writer, and political commentator. He is the president of the Middle East Forum, and publisher of its Middle East Quarterly journal. His writing focuses on the American foreign policy and the Middle East. Wikipedia

In 2006 He was asked the question how many terrorist there are in the world. He said he was asked that question very often and then he basically said this......

In 2006 it was estimated that there were 300 million JIHADIST in the world and 400 million radicals. That's roughly half the Muslim population of the world at that time. A radical is different than a jihadist. They won't strap bombs on themselves or fly planes into buildings but they logistically support them.

 

[kaoticprofit]

What visions are they having of him? Do you have a source on the subject I can read?

I have to look it up. I saw this on other forums and also on the John Ankerberg Show.

Muslims are Having Dreams and Visions of Jesus! - YouTube

Here's a bunch.

Muslims are Having Dreams and Visions of Jesus! - YouTube
Here's a good article.

Visions of Jesus appearing to Muslims?

This should also inform you about it.

http://apprising.org/2013/09/04/an-evaluation-of-muslim-dreams-visions-of-isa-jesus-part-1-by-dennis-mcbride/

 

[A Cup Of Tea]

One source of information comes from Daniel Pipes' blog.

That's a source, sure, but where does the source get it's info?

 

[Gordian Knot]

Well, Tea, it turns out that a great many people think Pipes is America’s #1 Islamophobe. He has his supporters as well, of course. He has had a highly successful career in this country in universities, think tanks and politics.

His statements do tend to be extremist and radical, so whether one supports him or not, I do not think he could be considered a fair minded source.

 

[A Cup Of Tea]

Well, Tea, it turns out that a great many people think Pipes is America’s #1 Islamophobe. He has his supporters as well, of course. He has had a highly successful career in this country in universities, think tanks and politics.

His statements do tend to be extremist and radical, so whether one supports him or not, I do not think he could be considered a fair minded source.

Yeah I looked him up myself, trying to find hos sources. Being an Islamophobe doesn't make one wrong, but we can't really take anything that black sheep over there says seriously unless we see the who/how/why the data was collected.