Perhaps we are inching ever closer to the truth. No, God (the uncreated spirit) cannot die on a cross, but what can? Anything else, including sinless flesh. The human form may die upon the cross as a sacrifice and go down into death/hell, but it is impossible for the uncreated spirit to be holden of such things. There's a verse for that, I will have to look it up and post it here when I find it.
Okay, here it is, from Peter's sermon in Acts 2:
22“Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 23Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you [f]have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24whom God raised up, having [g]loosed the [h]pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it. 25For David says concerning Him:
‘I foresaw the Lord always before my face,
For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.
26Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad;
Moreover my flesh also will rest in hope.
27For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
28You have made known to me the ways of life;
You will make me full of joy in Your presence.’
Perhaps a little more clear in this version:
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.
Morning. I will probably only repeat myself here but nonetheless will reply to your post.
My understanding is that the cross is a symbol for the human body. Golgotha means skull and indeed the skull or head is the seat of consciousness in the body. Consciousness affixes itself to our form, or comes forth in us as us. (Consciousness comes forth as everything that is.)
From experience, the crucifixion means different things depending on the level of interpretation, or level of consciousness of the interpreter.
I believe that David is Christ in the OT. David is humanity, or God’s Son (he who does the will of God). He is God in man. By the time we get to the unfolding of the NT, we arrive at the individual consciousness of the one who is in the end days; or, the one who has come into the realization that he is Jesus Christ, that he (or she) and the Father are one. With that knowledge is the understanding that all of humanity is Jesus Christ, the Son (they just haven’t waken up).
For me, Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit, or Imagination, or Mind, or Consciousness, or Light, or Love. All the same thing. Imagination is a Being- the One Being that brings forth all of creation and is all of creation. So that the only thing in my mind and reflected out into what I call physical or material reality, is Jesus Christ (God fills all). And my Saviour is the only thing that can ever help me because he is me and the solution to every ill. Every thing that is possible to conceive of resides in imagination.
I consider Israel in the quoted passage to refer to the mind of man (the thing I am only and ever battling or ever discipline are the aspects of my mind). Peter is that mental attribute that knows who we really are, who knows that Jesus Christ is always in the midst for God is present everywhere, in everything and including the Center of our being.
I understand dying on the cross to mean different things. Death spiritually speaking means separation from God. We are never separate from God but if we do not have an enlightened mind, we believe that God is somewhere other than in us and creation. Life is a result of the union with our Source. So dying on the cross for me represents a sleeping individual; one who hasn’t waken to their divinity and unity with God (or Christ within them dead).
There are other ways to experience crucifixion but I won’t go into it.
One comes into the last days because that person begins to experience things in scripture, they read scripture and realize it’s talking about them (or the Christ within them). Or they have visions and revelations.
My experience anyway.
