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I wonder if extra biblical writings could be considered adding to scripture. Even though they aren't added to the bible they are changing the gospel message. The warnings are pretty scary.
 
ZI wonder if extra biblical writings could be considered adding to scripture. Even though they aren't added to the bible they are changing the gospel message. The warnings are pretty scary.
Ah no, it's quite alright. 'Muhammad, the Bab and Baha'u'llah have offered much the same' as Jesus. Christians are just too misled and ignorant to recognize the fact. They should accept the profound instruction being so kindly offered here with such generosity and goodness of heart ;)
 
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I wonder if extra biblical writings could be considered adding to scripture. Even though they aren't added to the bible they are changing the gospel message. The warnings are pretty scary.
The warnings are valid and what one can consider is that doctrine did add to the words of the bible. Doctrine became a written creed to which if one did not accept, they were labelled blasphemers and could be put to death, just for having a different view of how God manifests to humanity. Many Christians suffered that fate.

Example


This history is easily forgotten or brushed off, and I see that is an injustice to all those falsely accused.

Regards Tony
 
Ah no, it's quite alright. 'Muhammad, the Bab and Baha'u'llah have offered much the same' as Jesus. Christians are just too misled and ignorant to recognize the fact. They should accept the profound instruction being so kindly offered here with such generosity and goodness of heart ;)
I see that would show the Christ given Christian Spirit at its best, it would bring back love and light to the name of Jesus.

Regards Tony
 
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I see that would show the Christ given Christian Spirit at its best, it would bring back love and light to the name of Jesus.

Regards Tony
No, you mean to the name of Baha'u'llah -- not Jesus? Why do you need to reference Jesus to justify your self-declared Jesus update? Arent you supposed to have your own religion, without having to keep chipping over into the New Testament, to keep trying to supply your own so called new-age messenger with some sort of credibility?
 
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God is Spirit. God speaks to us by giving existence to a perfect human in each age, a person born of more than Human Spirit, a station they share with all humanity, they are Annointed with the Holy spirit, no other man shares this station but the Messengers, they are pre-existing in the Holy Spirit.

One issue I see with this Baha'i belief is that I truly don't see how Krishna, Buddha and Jesus preached a complementary message. If they're all messengers of God, God's message is a bit confused.
 
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The warnings are valid and what one can consider is that doctrine did add to the words of the bible. Doctrine became a written creed to which if one did not accept, they were labelled blasphemers and could be put to death, just for having a different view of how God manifests to humanity. Many Christians suffered that fate.

Example


This history is easily forgotten or brushed off, and I see that is an injustice to all those falsely accused.

Regards Tony
So once again if it doesn't support you beliefs it was merely written in as a doctrine? The warnings were in the OT as well..
 
One issue I see with this Baha'i belief is that I truly don't see how Krishna, Buddha and Jesus preached a complementary message. If they're all messengers of God, God's message is a bit confused.
Baha'u'llah never heard of Krishna or Buddha. He only knew about Abrahamic 'messengers'
 
Baha'u'llah never heard of Krishna or Buddha. He only knew about Abrahamic 'messengers'
Really? He wasn't familiar with Eastern religions, even in passing?
One of the things I always thought was admirable about Bahai was the idea that they honored the value of all religions.
Or had come to appreciate the harmony amongst seemingly different religious messages.
I suppose they could do that without knowing about them... but ... ??
 
One issue I see with this Baha'i belief is that I truly don't see how Krishna, Buddha and Jesus preached a complementary message. If they're all messengers of God, God's message is a bit confused.

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Conceptually I think I get it, but practically and pragmatically I think B'hai is ... biting off more than they can chew is what comes to mind. Trying to stuff everyone into one kettle (applies to Unity as well) doesn't resonate with me.

The major religions, or at least major religion families, tend to be culturally specific, and culturally nuanced. It's only natural that an Asian wisdom tradition would seem out of place in Central America, for example - there aren't any cultural associations to relate to.

I try to appreciate each in its own environment.
 
No, you mean to the name of Baha'u'llah -- not Jesus? Why do you need to reference Jesus to justify your self-declared Jesus update? Arent you supposed to have your own religion, without having to keep chipping over into the New Testament, to keep trying to supply your own so called new-age messenger with some sort of credibility?
There is no difference between the Messengers, they are One with God.

Regards Tony
 
One issue I see with this Baha'i belief is that I truly don't see how Krishna, Buddha and Jesus preached a complementary message. If they're all messengers of God, God's message is a bit confused.
I can offer that this concept is explained in detail in the Kitab-i-iqan. It explains why the Messages appear to differ, because of the requirements of the age it was given and the people the Message was delivered to. The fundamental spiritual truths remain unchanged. The truths that create unity.

I will not post many answers here, as one is accused if they do. Everyone is able to download this Tablet in Word or PDF and do a search on key words.


All the best, Regards Tony
 
So once again if it doesn't support you beliefs it was merely written in as a doctrine? The warnings were in the OT as well..
What supports Muhammad, the Bab and Baha'u'llah is the Word as recorded in the Bible, that includes the Old Testament.

Doctrine is an attempt by men to explain that Word, which can be an incomplete understanding.

Regards Tony
 
Really? He wasn't familiar with Eastern religions, even in passing?
One of the things I always thought was admirable about Bahai was the idea that they honored the value of all religions.
Or had come to appreciate the harmony amongst seemingly different religious messages.
I suppose they could do that without knowing about them... but ... ??
That statement by RJM was not correct.

Hinduism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baháʼí_Faith_and_Hinduism

Buddhism:

This would require study on the topic.

Regards Tony
 
What supports Muhammad, the Bab and Baha'u'llah is the Word as recorded in the Bible, that includes the Old Testament.

Doctrine is an attempt by men to explain that Word, which can be an incomplete understanding.

Regards Tony
That doesn't answer my original question. Not surprised though. Just know the warning is there.
 
Put all thought of doctrine aside and look at it with new eyes. The concept is that God is exalted above our comprehensive capacity, the creation cannot know the Creator. God does not decend into creation. Just as the sun that gives life to this planet does not decend, the rays of the sun permeate creation and give light and life.

God is Spirit. God speaks to us by giving existence to a perfect human in each age, a person born of more than Human Spirit, a station they share with all humanity, they are Annointed with the Holy spirit, no other man shares this station but the Messengers, they are pre-existing in the Holy Spirit.

They are all we know of God. John 1:18

"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

The mystery of God will always be, the way we experience God, only via the Messengers, does not have to be a Mystery, it can be the unity of all Faiths.

Regards Tony
Intriguing 🤔
 
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