Absolute Truth

[RJM]

Mmm .. and majority Islamic belief is that Jesus will return as the Messiah/Christ,
who will fulfill the Jewish prophecies .. albeit as being the light for all of mankind, and not just the Jews.

Absolutely, that is what some Muslims believe, and what you believe. No problem at all that you believe what you do, from your own Muslim religion. God's blessing upon you, brother.

The issue would be trying to make the New Testament support the Qur'an Jesus -- where it clearly does not?

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

The issue would be trying to make the New Testament support the Qur'an Jesus -- where it clearly does not?

Then there are millions that see both the Old Testament and the New Testament do speak of Muhammad.

The Message of Muhammad can then mirror this verse to the Christains. John 5:46-47 KJV For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

Muhammad could offer, "had you believed Jesus, you would have beleive me: for he wrote of me.

One can only offer the Bible does contain references to the Revelation of Muhammad.

Regards Tony

 

[RJM]

One can only offer the Bible does contain references to the Revelation of Muhammad.

One can only offer that the Bible does contain references to the revelation of anything one wants it to, if one is determined enough to manipulate the actual context, lol

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

Mmm .. and majority Islamic belief is that Jesus will return as the Messiah/Christ,
who will fulfill the Jewish prophecies .. albeit as being the light for all of mankind, and not just the Jews.

What can be offered to that, when one sees that has happened, but to just offer it again for people to consider.

I can offer that Muhammad is clearly written about in the Bible. The reference to 1260 years being the key that ties both Daniel and Revelation together.

The issue a Muslim and a Christian will face, is that to see how Muhammad is clearly foretold in the Bible, one must embrace what happened in AH1260, when the power of the Two Witnesses, Muhammad and Imam Ali gave way to the fulfillment of the end of ages.

Regards Tony

 

[RJM]

can offer that Muhammad is clearly written about in the Bible. The reference to 1260 years being the key that ties both Daniel and Revelation together

Right ... conclusive proof from Daniel

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

One can only offer that the Bible does contain references to the revelation of anything I want it to, if I'm determined enough to manipulate the actual context, lol

Maybe that has been done, that is the text has been so manipulated by doctrines, that Muhammad is not able to be seen.

Regards Tony

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

Right ... conclusive proof from Daniel

Consider that Jesus references us to Daniel when asked of the sign's of the End of Ages.

William Miller used this in his prediction of AD1844, which amazingly is AH1260.

Regards Tony

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

The LOL emoji used as an insult. I see that tactic used far too often.

One wonders why people are not attracted to forum discussions.

Regards Tony

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

Another great consideration as to why one rarely sees material from false prophets posted on online forums.

One can consider they just do not have the material to support their claim.

That may be an Absolute Truth.

Regards Tony

 

[Faithfulservant]

Another great consideration as to why one rarely sees material from false prophets posted on online forums.

One can consider they just do not have the material to support their claim.

That may be an Absolute Truth.

Regards Tony

I see material posted from false prophets on this forum.

 

[muhammad_isa]

The issue a Muslim and a Christian will face, is that to see how Muhammad is clearly foretold in the Bible, one must embrace what happened in AH1260, when the power of the Two Witnesses, Muhammad and Imam Ali gave way to the fulfillment of the end of ages.

Regards Tony

..I don't understand..

 

[Modesty]

The outcome is to embrace God in all God given Names.

That does not include false prophets.

Regards Tony

But who decides who is a false prophet or not? How do we know which prophets are sanctioned by God or not?

 

[Modesty]

..I don't understand..

AH1260 means 1844. That's the year Ali Muhammad declared himself the Bab, which is what he was referring to in his comment.

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

But who decides who is a false prophet or not? How do we know which prophets are sanctioned by God or not?

We each get that choice.

Regards Tony

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

AH1260 means 1844. That's the year Ali Muhammad declared himself the Bab, which is what he was referring to in his comment.

Just to clarify, AH 1260 is also AD1844.

Regards Tony

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

..I don't understand..

AH 1260 is AD1844 This muslim calendar year is written into Biblical Prophecy, confirming Muhammad is clearly foretold in many passages.

God gave power to the Two Witnesses in Revelation to give Prophecy for 1260 years (Muhammad and Imam Ali)

This Prophecy is written as "Times, time and half a time, 3 1/2 years, 42 months and 1260 days", all = 1260 years.

Now if the Bab had not made that Declaration in AH1260, then there is no way any of this could be referring to those passages.

Regards Tony

 

[Faithfulservant]

AH 1260 is AD1844 This muslim calendar year is written into Biblical Prophecy, confirming Muhammad is clearly foretold in many passages.

God gave power to the Two Witnesses in Revelation to give Prophecy for 1260 years (Muhammad and Imam Ali)

This Prophecy is written as "Times, time and half a time, 3 1/2 years, 42 months and 1260 days", all = 1260 years.

Now if the Bab had not made that Declaration in AH1260, then there is no way any of this could be referring to those passages.

Regards Tony

Lol I'm not going even going to try to tear this down. You are taking one sentence out of an entire chapter and creating a falsehood. The 70th week of Daniel doesn't start until a peace treaty is signed with Israel... Jews didn't return to their home until 1948.

 

[muhammad_isa]

AH1260 means 1844. That's the year Ali Muhammad declared himself the Bab, which is what he was referring to in his comment.

I'm very wary of people "declaring themselves"
Where did that kitty come from??

I've known a few people who think they are something special .. hmmm.
It's interesting to note that Muhammad, peace be with him, did not accept
himself to be a prophet for quite sometime after he was called by angel Gabriel.
His wife believed it, but he thought that he was possessed.

satan likes to mislead .. he convinces us to follow that which pleases us,
rather than something that is more challenging .. and the person who loves God
will be opposed, of that there is no doubt.

 

[muhammad_isa]

AH 1260 is AD1844 This muslim calendar year is written into Biblical Prophecy, confirming Muhammad is clearly foretold in many passages.

God gave power to the Two Witnesses in Revelation to give Prophecy for 1260 years (Muhammad and Imam Ali)

This Prophecy is written as "Times, time and half a time, 3 1/2 years, 42 months and 1260 days", all = 1260 years..

..and take away the number you first thought of, and..

 

[muhammad_isa]

..Jews didn't return to their home until 1948..

Our true "home" is not in this life!