Did Jesus come to save all the people of the world?

Rxlx said:
GOD slaughtered all humans during The Flood - maybe a billion or two? So don't think during Armageddon He will shirk from slaughtering all who deny Jesus is His son - as all Muslims do.
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Rxlx said:
As usual you Muslims reveal you know nothing.
The Flood covered the world and Jesus will slaughter all of you for worshipping and kissing that black stone in Mecca.
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I see that approach is about as unchristian one can get.

Regards Tony
 
Rxlx said:
Christian truth so upsets the ones who do not understand the basics of Christianity.
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Christianity can be used as a weapon of hate of others, by those that do not understand the purpose of Jesus Christ as being a saviour, and not a destroyer.

Being destructive is our own choice of mind, words and actions


Regards Tony
 
Jesus came to save all who believe he is the Son of GOD and do not worship idols or imaginary gods as they all did before The Flood wiped them out.
 
Rxlx said:
Jesus came to save all who believe he is the Son of GOD and do not worship idols or imaginary gods as they all did before The Flood wiped them out.
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Who is to say that your choices are not Idols of an imaginary God, made in the image of your own mind?

By their fruit a Christain is known, not by their condemnation of others.

Regards Tony
 
Rxlx said:
Jesus was quite specific - he said to preach the Gospel and all who denied it will have a fate worse than Sodom and Gomorrah.
As a matter of fact I've tried to preach Gospel to Muslims and been persecuted for it. They are the walking dead.
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The Word has to be given in Love, we can not be hypocritical in offering that Word by thinking those we deliver it too are already dead. We do not know the hearts, only God does.

So there is no misunderstanding between us, I am a member of the Baha'i Faith.

Regards Tony
 
@Rxlx -

I wouldn't go a room and unpack my suitcase just yet.

You have joined an interfaith forum. I'm not quite sure you understand that and I'm not sure you understand that there are rules for how one conducts oneself when participating on the forum. I'm neither an administrator nor a moderator on this site, but if I were to hazard a guess I'd say that you are either close to the line of violating the site rules or you have already done so. I'll leave that to @iBrian.

Although I haven't seen a remark from you specifically targeting Jews it is obvious from your posts so far that you don't think any better of Judaism than you do of Islam
 
Hi @Rxix –

Just to reiterate @RabbiO – and I am a moderator here – we try to observe a certain manner here which has come to characterise the forum –

The idea of IO is "interfaith dialogue and exploration of others' beliefs while being a place to discuss the intricacies of our own belief in a safe format."

Please respect other members and avoid making offensive of inflammatory comments like your 'walking dead' above.

I'd ask that you pop over to "Introductions" and say hello.

That having being said ... welcome aboard!
 
Faithfulservant said:
Is universal salvation in the bible? Im curious if it can be backed up by scripture..
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It doesn't really matter whether it is in the Bible, Qur'an or anything else.

Dehumanizing human beings on the basis of ethnicity or religion, is not endorsed by G-d.
If you think it is, because of some verse in the Bible or Qur'an, I consider it extremist.

Salvation depends on our behavior, and not on ethnicity or religion.
What comes first? The chicken or the egg?
It is the heart that leads us to salvation .. well-off people with cold hearts are not
heading in the right direction, regardless of their religion.
 
muhammad_isa said:
It doesn't really matter whether it is in the Bible, Qur'an or anything else.

Dehumanizing human beings on the basis of ethnicity or religion, is not endorsed by G-d.
If you think it is, because of some verse in the Bible or Qur'an, I consider it extremist.

Salvation depends on our behavior, and not on ethnicity or religion.
What comes first? The chicken or the egg?
It is the heart that leads us to salvation .. well-off people with cold hearts are not
heading in the right direction, regardless of their religion.
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I appreciate your opinion. Thank you for sharing. I see it differently and i also have a right to my belief. I asked Thomas a simple question. I am curious if this is in the bible or if it was formed on something else.
 
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Faithfulservant said:
Is universal salvation in the bible? Im curious if it can be backed up by scripture. Thank you ❤️
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It sparked a curiosity of mine as well. This is worth a read.

en.wikipedia.org

History of Christian universalism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Regards Tony

I see there are many spiritual worlds of God, just as ther are material worlds, this being but one, and who knows, we may have to traverse many spiritual states of being on our path to knowing and loving God.

So Loving our enemies takes on a whole knew meaning, we can do this without being hypocritical, as we have submitted our will 100% to that of God's, knowing God tests His servants, as God so chooses. Suffering takes on a whole new level of understanding, as no soul is tested beyong its capacity. This temporal flesh body, animated by the Spirit, given a capacity of a rational mind, given an ability to choose to know and Love God, becomes the most humbling of experiences.
 
Faithfulservant said:
I see it differently and i also have a right to my belief.
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..so does everybody else..
i.e. that such-and-such are the only ones that will be saved from hell

Almighty G-d is the best of ALL judges. They can't all be right.
In fact, I doubt that any of them are. :)
 
Yahweh kid said:
“You shall love your neighbor as yourself”
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How did Jesus love all his neighbours as he4 loves himself? How did Jesus hold out his hands on the cross, and love the man with the hammer and nails? We know Jesus prayed forgive them Father, they know not what they do.

To forgive is a great thing to do, but to love them as you love yourself, is so much greater.

I believe the greatest commandments are the most profound words written anywhere throughout the history of mankind.
 
Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
It sparked a curiosity of mine as well. This is worth a read.

en.wikipedia.org

History of Christian universalism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Regards Tony

I see there are many spiritual worlds of God, just as ther are material worlds, this being but one, and who knows, we may have to traverse many spiritual states of being on our path to knowing and loving God.

So Loving our enemies takes on a whole knew meaning, we can do this without being hypocritical, as we have submitted our will 100% to that of God's, knowing God tests His servants, as God so chooses. Suffering takes on a whole new level of understanding, as no soul is tested beyong its capacity. This temporal flesh body, animated by the Spirit, given a capacity of a rational mind, given an ability to choose to know and Love God, becomes the most humbling of experiences.
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Thank you for the read. The scriptures used in support of universal salvation can be argued as taken out of context. Christ is the savior of all people but He has to he received. He does not contradict Himself. He spoke of hell that is a place. There will be those that perish. The epistles were written for the body of Christ.. Jesus was speaking to believers. If you have that understanding and read what was written it puts what was said into context.
 
muhammad_isa said:
..so does everybody else..
i.e. that such-and-such are the only ones that will be saved from hell
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Thats what the bible says. I did not write it it . I only follow it. John 3:16 is the gospel message. If i believed otherwise would be to call my Savior a liar and put my own spin on what I think is fair and just. God cannot abide sin. That is a Holy and Good God. If you dont receive what Jesus did on the cross you are held to the standard of the law. Thats an impossible task because if you break one law you are guilty of them all. This is my belief and the authority on which i hold my belief is Jesus Christ and His Word.
muhammad_isa said:
Almighty G-d is the best of ALL judges. They can't all be right.
In fact, I doubt that any of them are. :)
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God is just and i believe if you dont accept His Son while alive on this earth why would you want to spend eternity worshipping Him and fellowshipping with Him? This was the solution to sin entering the world. I didnt make this up. Wide is the path that leads to destruction and narrow is the way.. if everyone got there based on the idea that everyone will be saved why would He say that? The two theives on the cross one said remember me when you enter into your kingdom and Jesus told him he would be with Him in paradise.... He did not extend that same assurance to the other thief that mocked and denied Him.

Scripture says that Jesus Himself will judge the living and the dead. Who are the living and who are the dead?

John 5:22: "The Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son"

You can either believe it or not. I choose to believe what is written.
 
Faithfulservant said:
You can either believe it or not. I choose to believe what is written.
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..and I choose to believe what my heart tells me is true..
..and not some literal quoting of a passage in the Bible or Qur'an.

G-d alone knows who will be going to hell .. we reap what we sow.
Hypocrisy does not lead to success .. only sincerity.

You said:
"If you dont receive what Jesus did on the cross you are held to the standard of the law."

Well, if you go by that, then all Jews are going to hell. I don't personally believe that.
 
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