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Jeannot said:QUERY: Are JWs Arians?
Jeannot said:QUERY: Are JWs Arians?
mee said:
Because they do not believe in the Trinity dogma, it has been said of Jehovah’s Witnesses that they practice "a form of Arianism." But the fact that they are not Trinitarians does not make them Arians. so no we are not arians![]()
Quahom1 said:I fail to see where the Trinity is "dogma". But then again, you fail to see where JW teachings are dogma...
Personally I could care less a man/woman's denomination. Jesus is savior is the core? Then we're alright.
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mee said:
Accurate Knowledge of Jesus is Vital to Salvation
How, then, can one gain true salvation? First Timothy 2:3, 4 answers: [God’s] will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.
i didnt say you , i was just stating what the bible says , many people say they believe in Jesus , but the bible talks about accurate knowledge , and Jesus himself said that there would be ones who believed in Jesus , and claimed to do great things in his name ,yet he said to them get away from me you workers of lawlessness.Quahom1 said:Insulting another Christian because he does not hold your point of view, is not very brotherly...and implying his views are "inaccurate" is a form of insult. I may have challenged your views before, but I never implied you were less than I, or ignorant of the truth...perhaps you might do me the same courtesy next time.
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mee said:
Accurate Knowledge of Jesus is Vital to Salvation
How, then, can one gain true salvation? First Timothy 2:3, 4 answers: [God’s] will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. (KJV)
...who wants all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. (NIV)
China Cat Sunflower said:All sorts of men? A convenient modification.
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mee said:i didnt say you , i was just stating what the bible says , many people say they believe in Jesus , but the bible talks about accurate knowledge , and Jesus himself said that there would be ones who believed in Jesus , and claimed to do great things in his name ,yet he said to them get away from me you workers of lawlessness.
Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness matthew 7;22,23
but at no time have i said that of you, i am just bringing out what the bible says, so i dont think it is just a case of believing in Jesus, it is getting the accurate knowledge about Jehovah and Jesus
(John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ
(Philippians 1:9) And this is what I continue praying, that YOUR love may abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment
Welcome Chris to the NWTChina Cat Sunflower said:All sorts of men? A convenient modification.
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Dor said:Welcome Chris to the NWT![]()
yes thats correct , they are not doing what Jesus told them too, they are followers in name only, that was the point i was trying to make , even though they think they are doing right in Gods eyes it seems they will not be doing the right things , So it is important to have accurate knowledge about Jehovah and Jesus then we can do the things they want us tooQuahom1 said:Yeah, Mee. Jesus was talking about those that talk the big talk but never walked the walk. Those that never lifted a hand to help another, beyond their whatever. He meant those that talk and do nothing to back that talk up. That is what Jesus meant. Even my sons at six understood that.
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All men are all sorts ,we are all different, but after taking in accurate knowledge about Jehovah and Jesus , we are all in unity of purpose, and have the hope of being saved, yes from all nations and tribes , all sorts of men and womenChina Cat Sunflower said:All sorts of men? A convenient modification.
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Quahom1 said:The welcome was back to the Christianity Forum, thank you very much.
E99 said:The point that Sunflower and Dor seem to pull out is that ‘All sorts of men’ is a modification, possibly to suit the JW theology.
mee said:yes thats correct , they are not doing what Jesus told them too, they are followers in name only, that was the point i was trying to make , even though they think they are doing right in Gods eyes it seems they will not be doing the right things , So it is important to have accurate knowledge about Jehovah and Jesus then we can do the things they want us too