wy do people think jesus was god

BlaznFattyz said:
Jesus is God, quote]




CORRECTION from the bible,
Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.” matthew 3;17


its good to stick to what the bible REALLY teaches then you will be on the right path .Jesus is NOT God . the bible should be the aurthority i am glad to say that Jehovahs witnesses always have the bible as the final aurthority.:)
JESUS IS NOT GOD .




And a cloud formed, overshadowing them, and a voice came out of the cloud: “This is my Son, the beloved; listen to him. MARK 9;7

THE BIBLE ALWAYS PUTS US STRAIGHT :) Jesus is not God ,
i really like what the bible REALLY teaches it puts mee straight



For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when words such as these were borne to him by the magnificent glory: “This is my son, my beloved, whom I myself have approved.” 2 PETER 1;17
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Jesus is God, because although he created us in his image with his hands and breathed life into us, we sin and fall short of his glory. It is through Jesus that we may find Salvation. Jesus who is sinless and righteous is the saviour of man and through Him we can pass from death to life. We are God's creation from dust and He loved us enough to come down from his dwelling in heaven, die on the cross for us, and raise himself out of his own power so that we may find life in him. Look, your God is coming. He is coming to save you. Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened..." And without controversy: Great is the Mystery of Godliness. God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of Angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up in Glory. Those that believe and honor Jesus know the Father.
 
why do people think Jesus is God ?



especially when the bible does not teach that he is


You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, ,
YOUR GOD anointed you with [the] oil of exultation more than your partners.”
hebrews 1;9


this verse in hebrews is refering to Jesus , and the most high JEHOVAH, is his God .
psalm 83;18 so Jesus is not God is he?

and as it says in matthew 28;18





And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been GIVEN me in heaven and on the earth. matthew 28;18

Jesus has been GIIVEN all aurthority, the bible always puts mee straight
2 timothy 3;16-17



The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. john 3;35


the bible is great for putting mee straight :)JESUS IS NOT GOD :)
 
Mee is not one of the 144,000 who will not soley enter heaven while the rest of mankind lives on earth, either (but try telling mee that). In the mean time mee, knock of the Jesus is not God stuff. You've said it enough times to fill a small novel. And you really are insulting many people deliberately.

Just because you have certain beliefs doesn't mean everyone else does. And we have definitely heard your beliefs.

thank you.
 
Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

God the Father being spirit does not shed blood; but His Son who died for our sins, our Savior, shed his blood and died on the cross and rose again so we might find life in Him, because he is everlasting life.
 
mee, here's an interesting thought - if the JW's teach that there are only 140,000 righteous that will enter Heaven, how do you reconcile that with the fact that there are approximately 7 million JW's in the world?
 
I already asked him that question too! He said that not all JW witness will make it either.

I was intrigued when he said that because to me its a prime example of a religion seeking superiority over the other.
 
Brian said:
if the JW's teach that there are only 140,000 righteous that will enter Heaven, how do you reconcile that with the fact that there are approximately 7 million JW's in the world?
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I have heard Mee & other JW's say that the 144K are a select group who actually go up to heaven but that many more than that are saved that will live on earth. Mee associates them with the 'Great cloud' in Hebrews 12:1 "Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses..." and that is probably why the Mee sees 7 million as so significant. Must be a magic number they associate with the cloud.
 
Quahom1 said:
Mee is not one of the 144,000 quote]



:) very true i am part of that GREAT CROWD without a number, revelation 7;9-10
and my hope is to go on to inherit the earth, that JESUS spoke about

Matthew 5;5


and i have my symbolic palm branch firmly in my hand , to welcome Gods reigning king JESUS CHRIST.
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Dream said:
I have heard Mee & other JW's say that the 144K are a select group who actually go up to heaven but that many more than that are saved that will live on earth. quote]


The ones that will be going to heaven to be with Jesus , are known as a LITTLE FLOCK luke 12;32



and it is a little flock of 144,000, revelation 14;1

but Jesus also spoke about his OTHER SHEEP JOHN 10;16



So there would be 2 flocks, a little one that would be going to heaven ,and a great crowd without a number..


that great crowd without a number is a really big crowd from all nations ,and they are being gathered to survive the
GREAT TRIBULATION
REVELATION 7;9-10
REVELATION 7;14



but the really great thing about it all is that they all listen to Jesus voice, and they are all in unity.


and they all know just where they are going too.
MEE is looking foreward to living in a paradise earth under the prince of peace JESUS CHRIST isaiah 9;6-7



and even now that great crowd are being instructed by JEHOVAH, thats because they listen to the voice of JESUS, and they have beaten their swords into plowshares, MICAH 4;1-4


And it must occur in the final part of the days [that] the mountain of the house of Jehovah will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, and it will certainly be lifted up above the hills; and to it peoples must stream. 2 And many nations will certainly go and say: “Come, YOU people, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths.” For out of Zion law will go forth, and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. 3 And he will certainly render judgment among many peoples, and set matters straight respecting mighty nations far away. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. They will not lift up sword, nation against nation, neither will they learn war anymore. 4 And they will actually sit, each one under his vine and under his fig tree, and there will be no one making [them] tremble; for the very mouth of Jehovah of armies has spoken [it].
MICAH 4;1-4




:)ITS ALL HAPPENING IN THESE THE LAST DAYS :)and that good instruction will go on and on . And then it will be a paradise earth .




And jesus plays a very very big part in the outworkings of JEHOVAHS purpose for the earth.



Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.

1 corinthians 15;24-28
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Dream said:
Mee sees 7 million as so significant. Must be a magic number they associate with the cloud.
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the great crowd spoken of in revelation 7;9-10 is a numberless great crowd , there are 7 million or so at the momment ,but that number changes as time goes on .
back in the eighties when i first became a Jehovahs witness there was only about 3 million but as time goes on and the gathering of the great crowd goes on the number changes, and as it says in
revelation 7;9-10 no man can number them .
so its not that mee sees 7 million as some magic number, in a few months time that number will change. back in the eighties i was saying 3 million , but now i am saying 7 million i will just have to wait and see what number i will be seeing later.


but one thing is for sure they are all waving their symbolic palm branches to welcome Gods newly crowned king Daniel 7;13-14 and they are not afraid to wave it for all to see.:)
 
Dream said:
Hebrews 12:1 "quote]

Has Satan been successful in his claim that he can turn everyone away from God?

In chapter 11 of the Bible book of Hebrews, the apostle Paul names a number of faithful men and women of pre-Christian times.

Then he declares: “The time will fail me if I go on to relate about Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David as well as Samuel and the other prophets.” (Hebrews 11:32)

Paul simply refers to these loyal servants of God as a ‘great cloud of witnesses.’ (Hebrews 12:1)
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Dream said:
Mee sees 7 million as so significant.
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it is true that there are at the momment just over 7 million baptized Jehovahs witnessses.


but it is also true that at last years memorial of Jesus Death , there were about 17 million joining them at that time ,so it seems that the great crowd will be getting bigger and bigger as time goes on .:)
 
I said:
mee, here's an interesting thought - if the JW's teach that there are only 140,000 righteous that will enter Heaven, how do you reconcile that with the fact that there are approximately 7 million JW's in the world?
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knowing just what the bible REALLY teaches will aid in our understanding about who the great crowd are in REVELATION 7;9-10 :) Knowing just who the little flock are luke 12;32 and the other sheep spoken of by Jesus in john 10;16 gives understanding indeed. and many are coming to an accurate understanding of just what the bible REALLY teaches .



and when they come to an accurate understanding they do not need to ask who they are any longer ,they just make it known .
 
why do people think jesus was god?

because they must be without accurate understanding of what the bible REALLY teaches:)
 
Postmaster said:
I already asked him that question too! He said that not all JW witness will make it either.

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I am glad to say that a numberless GREAT CROWD will survive the GREAT TRIBULATION And that is very good indeed
revelation 7;9-10,14. :)

and the even better thing about that fact ,is that they will go on to inherit the earth matthew 5;5

and they will recieve the healing provisions

And he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of its broad way. And on this side of the river and on that side [there were] trees of life producing twelve crops of fruit, yielding their fruits each month. And the leaves of the trees [were] for the curing of the nations.

revelation 22;1-2



Those who are willing to be fed by Jesus channel will have great blessing not only NOW matthew 24;45-47 but on in to the future, and it is all VERY GOOD :)
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