what happened to the jesus is a terrorist thread?

What happened to the what happened to the jesus is a terrorist thread?

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So why don't I just start a new thread? Bumping an old thread like this one somehow makes me more connected to the past. Honestly, I look at some of the other members and just feel so new despite the fact that I have now been posting here for a year. I have worked through many ideas by posting here, and its been pretty good. I was wondering what people think the future of the interfaith movement is?
 
Pathless said:
I don't even remember writing this.

:confused: :eek: :p
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It's an age thing.

Dream said:
just feel so new despite the fact that I have now been posting here for a year. I have worked through many ideas by posting here, and its been pretty good. I was wondering what people think the future of the interfaith movement is?
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Wow... One whole year? lulz...

Everyone is "new" really... Mankind is but a mere smudge, on the line of time.

No idea what the future holds, but it will soon be the past.
 
Dream said:
I was wondering what people think the future of the interfaith movement is?
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I did appreciate what you had to say about it in the politics area this time. Very well written, very factual and well thought out.

My bet is it will be the same as it ever was 5000 years ago and whatever title one puts on religion does not change what it is. Trying to prove beliefs that no one can ever prove with excessive concern over unimportant trifles to keep people needlessly disturbed and quarreling. I do however get a small chuckle out of those who really believe they are actually refuting another religious belief or dogma.

As a tiny sample of the future: you have jesus the terrorist, jesus the pornographer, jesus the hypocrite, jesus pbuh, jesus that never existed, jesus-jesus, jesus the pagan godman, jesus the sinner, jesus the savior, jesus the gnostic, jesus the false messiah, jesus the _____.
*repeat*
*repeat*
for as long as you wish.
 
Bandit said:
I did appreciate what you had to say about it in the politics area this time. Very well written, very factual and well thought out.
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Thanks! I got called on some assumptions earlier in the thread, and that's probably why I started being extra careful.
Bandit said:
My bet is it will be the same as it ever was 5000 years ago and whatever title one puts on religion does not change what it is. Trying to prove beliefs that no one can ever prove with excessive concern over unimportant trifles to keep people needlessly disturbed and quarreling. I do however get a small chuckle out of those who really believe they are actually refuting another religious belief or dogma.
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Have you seen the movie Wargames? I used to simulate in my head conversations with people, to see if I could pre-empt their objections to things while I proved things to them. The result was the same that the wargames computer got when it played globalthermonuclearwar. After simulating battle many times the computer decided this was a strange game, because the only way to win was not to play at all. The same goes for refuting other people's beliefs.
 
Dream said:
Have you seen the movie Wargames? I used to simulate in my head conversations with people, to see if I could pre-empt their objections to things while I proved things to them. The result was the same that the wargames computer got when it played globalthermonuclearwar. After simulating battle many times the computer decided this was a strange game, because the only way to win was not to play at all. The same goes for refuting other people's beliefs.
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I haven't seen Wargames, but what you describe seem true enough to me. Well put.
 
Pathless said:
I don't even remember writing this.

:confused: :eek: :p
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Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it!

Bandit said:
Trying to prove beliefs that no one can ever prove with excessive concern over unimportant trifles to keep people needlessly disturbed and quarreling.
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Well, religion doesn't have to be about proving anything, if you look at the broad spectrum of world religions. Not everyone who has a religion is out to prove something.

For some, religion is about living, breathing, thinking, seeing, hearing, knowing and just being. It's more like a club, tribe or dream/ambition/identity thing. The important thing is to recognise that it is no more than a club/tribe/identity thing. To go beyond such thinking is to delude oneself.

The proving mentality is more of a phenomenon of certain groups in Christianity, Islam and derivatives of the three main Abrahamic faiths. Most other religions don't try to prove anything, except for certain New Age movements seeking some kind of enlightenment.

What I would oppose most in religion is the relentless pursuit for objectivity, or the relentless promotion of one's own objectivity over others. It is this pursuit that is divisive and non-constructive.

Religion to me is ok as long as it is used in a constructive manner and has a constructive purpose.

Pathless said:
Ay, shut up you!! :mad: :mad: :mad: *angry fist shaking*

And get off my lawn, you damn kids!
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Haven't you lived long enough, you . . . octogenarian. Give someone else a chance to live!:eek:
 
Saltmeister said:
Well, religion doesn't have to be about proving anything, if you look at the broad spectrum of world religions. Not everyone who has a religion is out to prove something.

For some, religion is about living, breathing, thinking, seeing, hearing, knowing and just being. It's more like a club, tribe or dream/ambition/identity thing. The important thing is to recognise that it is no more than a club/tribe/identity thing. To go beyond such thinking is to delude oneself.

The proving mentality is more of a phenomenon of certain groups in Christianity, Islam and derivatives of the three main Abrahamic faiths. Most other religions don't try to prove anything, except for certain New Age movements seeking some kind of enlightenment.
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What I would oppose most in religion is the relentless pursuit for objectivity, or the relentless promotion of one's own objectivity over others. It is this pursuit that is divisive and non-constructive.

Religion to me is ok as long as it is used in a constructive manner and has a constructive purpose.
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I agree with the quoted parts. It is pretty amazing to watch new agers go after these others and christians still feed each other to lions. Religion has not offered that much of a constructive purpose in the debate department is what I am getting at with my post. For example nothing has changed when they debate the same stuff they debated 1800 years ago. This would actually make a good discussion because it would be about those who think they are actually doing something constructive by debating the same ideas from centuries ago and to observe that in personalities, the kind to avoid when possible.

I was threatened by two people here yesterday with physical violence. Hardly a constructive place to be, eh.

Not to leave out the impossible people who could never be wrong about anything. I did a study on impossible people. It helps a lot to pickup on them fast so you can know when not to waste your time and avoid problem relationships.


Dream said:
Thanks! I got called on some assumptions earlier in the thread, and that's probably why I started being extra careful.
Have you seen the movie Wargames? I used to simulate in my head conversations with people, to see if I could pre-empt their objections to things while I proved things to them. The result was the same that the wargames computer got when it played globalthermonuclearwar. After simulating battle many times the computer decided this was a strange game, because the only way to win was not to play at all. The same goes for refuting other people's beliefs.
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I have not seen the movie but I have been collecting a few movies over the last 2 years since I got a nice home theatre system with a big screen Sharp Aquos TV. I know what you mean. It does not take very long before you can repeat the entire debate from start to finish and debate all sides equally!, very much so like a game that no one wins. In the case of religion, a war game.
A very good comparison you make.
 
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