You can go over to the hell area of dialogue. There is something there that is placed to Lunitik a little bit ago about the way certain life seeks to "cause" others to understand in a protracted way. It is really not able to be done within what is understood as tight regimes and sentence structures. Religion has tried to do this and what is the result? This is not what forms knowledge or experiences that are appreciated. There is also life that seeks to end new knowledge, feeling and misunderstanding it as threatening to them and to what they are doing that they can not continue to do, and this is not able to be done.