Jury awards father $11M in funeral case

As an American I am far more ashamed of the grieving man who sued the WBC, the judge, and the jurors, than I am of the heckling WBC itself. While I find that the WBC repeatedly breaks one of the ten commandments by using God's name in vain, and that heckling at a funeral or other public service may be worthy of removal and rebuke, it was the grieving man who sued the WBC, the judge, and the jurors, who are now guilty of a hate crime. If the WBC does incite others towards hate then shame on the grieving father, the judge, and the jurors, for being so low to the ground that they were incited to this hate with mere words. Shame on them. I'd rather have the WBC in my home than the man who sued them, the judge, or the jurors... and I personally have found nothing to agree within anything the WBC has said. Shame on those who sued the taunting WBC... I hope their hate crime, injustice, anti-American, and anti-Christian method of dealing with the WBC is sharply rebuked by both the public and the government.
 
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As an American I am far more ashamed of the grieving man who sued the WBC, the judge, and the jurors, than I am of the heckling WBC itself. While I find that the WBC repeatedly breaks one of the ten commandments by using God's name in vain, and that heckling at a funeral or other public service may be worthy of removal and rebuke, it was the grieving man who sued the WBC, the judge, and the jurors, who are now guilty of a hate crime. If the WBC does incite others towards hate then shame on the grieving father, the judge, and the jurors, for being so low to the ground that they were incited to this hate with mere words. Shame on them. I'd rather have the WBC in my home than the man who sued them, the judge, or the jurors... and I personally have found nothing to agree within anything the WBC has said. Shame on those who sued the taunting WBC... I hope their injustice, anti-American, and anti-Christian ways are sharply rebuked by both the public and the government.
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He sued because he felt his rights were violated, because his family could not even have the dignity of burying their kin with respect. That is why it is called a civil action suit. He sued becuase someone had to stand up and say "this is wrong." One's rights end at the tip of another's nose.

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Quahom1 said:
He sued because he felt his rights were violated, because his family could not even have the dignity of burying their kin with respect. That is why it is called a civil action suit. He sued becuase someone had to stand up and say "this is wrong." One's rights end at the tip of another's nose.

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Right, so if someone says something disrespectful to you at your wedding or a family funeral then you think you've got the right to punch them in the nose or worse: to sue them for $11 million dollars. Why not just kill them? That'll shut them up. That'll teach the world the hate.
 
Gosh can you imagine the pain you must feel having to bury your child and then to have hate mongers shouting obsenities at you while you're doing it - that's gotta make you hurt real bad.

Sue them for every last penny so they don't have the funds to fly to any more funerals. These boys are dying for their country, no matter the politics of the war, they wear their uniform with pride and die to protect others. Let them rest in peace and their families grieve.
 
If I wanted to live where pride and military respect were worshipped, with the filthy mouthy dissidents against the county silenced... I'd move to Iran. Have you been to Iran Muslimwoman?
 
cyberpi said:
Have you been to Iran Muslimwoman?
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There are millions of folks awaiting revolution in that country as well. I've spoke to a number online. Yes it is oppressive over there, what can you expect. Is there a country the US hasn't meddled in that hasn't gone haywire. We didn't like there marxist gov't aligned with the ruskies so we put in our shah...pendelum swung back and the mullahs moved in, much to our chagrine, and now we've decided to make some figurehead a national hero and international player getting the world to listen to rhetoric he's been spewing in the back rooms for years. Shoulda left them alone five decades ago, shoulda left them alone and not backed Sadam 3 decades ago, what exists there now has US fingerprints on it, we planted the gun. From what I've seen it is a country that has plenty of beauty, and maybe if we don't meddle it'll find its own way out, but meddle we will. Have you been there cyberpi?
 
cyberpi said:
Right, so if someone says something disrespectful to you at your wedding or a family funeral then you think you've got the right to punch them in the nose or worse: to sue them for $11 million dollars. Why not just kill them? That'll shut them up. That'll teach the world the hate.
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Because sometimes the only way to get a hateful person's attention is to hit them in the pocket book, not the nose...

And what the father did was not hateful, by a long shot. What he did was call those being slanderous and liable to task. He asked a judge to decide (not himself). There is after all a commandment that states we are not to bear or bring false witness against others. And there is a commandment that states we will install fair judges on matter we can not reasonably resolve between ourselves.

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cyberpi said:
If I wanted to live where pride and military respect were worshipped, with the filthy mouthy dissidents against the county silenced... I'd move to Iran. Have you been to Iran Muslimwoman?
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I'd prefer to live where pride and military respect are honored and filty mouthy dissidents against the country can speak their mind, but not at the expense of the grieving, for one who gave up their life in order for all to have the freedom to speak their mind.

There is a time and a place for everything.

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Quahom1 said:
Because sometimes the only way to get a hateful person's attention is to hit them in the pocket book, not the nose...

And what the father did was not hateful, by a long shot. What he did was call those being slanderous and liable to task. He asked a judge to decide (not himself). There is after all a commandment that states we are not to bear or bring false witness against others. And there is a commandment that states we will install fair judges on matter we can not reasonably resolve between ourselves.

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The hate is in the man with the wounded pride and the judge and jury that awarded his PRIDE $11 million. What method will be used now to teach the man with the wounded pride, the judge, and the jury that their way is nothing but retributive? Sue the people for $11 million over their words as you would that other people sue you for $11 million over your words.
 
Quahom1 said:
I'd prefer to live where pride and military respect are honored and filty mouthy dissidents against the country can speak their mind, but not at the expense of the grieving, for one who gave up their life in order for all to have the freedom to speak their mind.

There is a time and a place for everything.

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Good thing Jesus had a sword so that he could speak his mind... yet give up his life so that I could speak mine.

SHAME to that wounded retributive pride, unjust judge, and jury.
 
cyberpi, I cant believe you are serious, mate. If you think burying your son and getting heckled in the process has ANYTHING to do with pride then you are way off track. To me however 11million dollars might as well as been 111million dollars or even 100 000 dollars. Its not going to change how these people think. Or probably how they act either, It certainly wont bring back the dead. But maybe it might deter some other lunatic group from this kind of horrible beaviour.
I still prefer my punishment for these losers. Hospitalization followed by Incarceration. and yes there should be an extra charge for stupidity.
 
One party applied insult to injury.
One party applied injury to insult.

Are these equal? Choose wisely.
 
cyberpi said:
One party applied insult to injury.
One party applied injury to insult.

Are these equal? Choose wisely.
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One party applied insulting injury to to an existing injury.
One party demanded compensation for the insulting injury.

Freedom of speech is a right. But it is not free...there is a price for everything.
 
Yep - that means non-Christians shouldn't be expected to keep their heads low and turn their cheek when attacked by ... Christians.

cyberpi, it seems that what you're saying is that democracy and a legal system built around judgement by your peers is wrong. In which case, you may indeed find the Iranian system much more to your liking. :)
 
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cyberpi, it seems that what you're saying is that democracy and a legal system built around judgement by your peers is wrong.
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TRUE if crucifixion, stoning, imprisonment, or removing $11 million of life from someone is your definition of judgment by peers for the crime of speaking undesired words at an undesired place and time. Jesus spoke undesired words at an undesired place and time and I'd sure hate to be a member of the crowd like yourself claiming that he was justly judged by his peers.

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In which case, you may indeed find the Iranian system much more to your liking. :)
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I can tolerate Iran as I tolerated your uncivil judgment of Silas and Niranjan. I denounce retribution over undesired words everywhere, including here. Surely you will learn this someday. :)
 
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TRUE if crucifixion, stoning, imprisonment, or removing $11 million of life from someone is your definition of judgment by peers for the crime of speaking undesired words at an undesired place and time. Jesus spoke undesired words at an undesired place and time and I'd sure hate to be a member of the crowd like yourself claiming that he was justly judged by his peers.

I can tolerate Iran as I tolerated your uncivil judgment of Silas and Niranjan. I denounce retribution over undesired words everywhere, including here. Surely you will learn this someday. :)
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Not wise to attack the administrator of this whole forum, Cyberpi. Not wise at all.

First, he isn't American. Second he is patient (rare for a Brit). Third, you are simply beyond out of line...

At first go, I will get rid of your patronage here, as he directs.

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there is sooooo much I could say, but this is a public forum and Id probably go to hell. Oh, hang on a minute, Ive got three kids, never been married, a tattoo or three and I drink, I guess im already headed there. LOL.
 
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there is sooooo much I could say, but this is a public forum and Id probably go to hell. Oh, hang on a minute, Ive got three kids, never been married, a tattoo or three and I drink, I guess im already headed there. LOL.
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I'm already there, married several times, and enjoy drink (and tobacco) :eek::mad::rolleyes::p:cool::D. No tatoos though (never found one I could live with for life).
Also sail the "seven seas"...

I've been around this world, so I'm entitled...
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