Marsh
Disagreeable By Nature
I think it's a little of the old sword-in-the-stone appeal.
Interesting analogy. To me, it's more like an intellectual car wreck, and we're all rubber-necking as we drive by...
I think it's a little of the old sword-in-the-stone appeal.
CZ: very much reminds me of the "Obama birth certificate" thread, remember that guy?
'Free will' is a myth, God is reposible for everything and He brings about everything only at its precise "appointed seaon and time".
Ecclesiastes 3
If there is free will, things are as they are.
If there is no free will, things are as they are.
Sometime between reading your response to my thread on Bible translations/versions, your post on the Catholic nun who was ex-communicated and this response, I've decided that I like you, Dogbrain.DS
One more thing...
After over 600 posts, I still don't understand the value of his belief.The choice you made was the only choice you could have made.What does one learn from that? How does it help to make me a better person... to lead a better life and make better decisions? The only response that it elicits from me is, "So?" Perhaps Gatekeeper, or Penelope could explain to me the value this belief brings to my life as Rodger, after hundreds of posts, has failed to reveal it to me.
Free will is ultimately isolated to ones willingness and/or ability to learn from our experiences and our environments. God (Who is all things) "moves" us to make decisions (Being that we are a part of His own). He is in control of where we are, but it's up to us to navigate the ship around the obstacles along the way.
Welcome back Rodger.![]()
I am a bit curious what uncontrollable influence compels you to keep coming back to this thread?
Rodger .... may I ask what it is you desire here? Can you pinpoint the reason for your determination. Can what compels you be changed or are you a slave to your desire? If a slave, what do you think can set you free, or is freedom an illusion as well. If freedom is also an illusion, whats the freaking point of striving to become a better person?
What exactly are you trying to do? Do you think it wise or unwise to demand that your views are factual when others view it all differently? What good could possibly come from you insisting that free will is a myth?
Some of us have made great strides bettering our own realities. Some of us have gained a very real sense of self accomplishment in the process. Would you wish to strip us of that sense of self accomplishment ... One which gives us hope and strength to face another day.
There must be a reason behind the madness man!
GK
My primary objective is to assure Bible believing Christians that the Bible does not teach that the will of anyone can successfully defeat God's intention to eventually bring never ending positive blessings to everyone.
THE PURPOSE OF EVIL
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