Who Are They?

[BlaznFattyz]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

parables are simple truths drawn from nature or common life, and the truth in parables reveal and illustrate the kingdom of god.

 

[mee]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

I don't know anything about JW's beliefs, so no idea where to start. quote]
Jehovah’s Witnesses—Who Are They? What Do They Believe?
Describes who they are, their modern development and growth, what they believe, the practical value to your community of what they preach, and their worldwide organization and work....................good reading online booklet

 

[mee]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

Jehovah's Witnesses: Authorized Site of the Office of Public Information

 

[madeinrussia89]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

Any religion that stipulates no birthday celebration just plain freaks me out.

 

[China Cat Sunflower]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

My coworker Mike is heading for Brooklyn and the Watch Tower HQ next week. His son Timothy is in some kind of internship program there. I take it he is volunteering his labor to the organization in exchange for room and board for a period of time. All I know is his papa is awfully proud as the position is hard to get.

Chris

 

[mee]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

Any religion that stipulates no birthday celebration just plain freaks me out.

. But perhaps you are unaware of the reasons why they and their children have decided not to participate in these celebrations.

 

[mee]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the timeless advice contained in an ancient book, the Bible, will benefit people of all backgrounds and beliefs.

 

[mee]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

Any religion that stipulates no birthday celebration just plain freaks me out.

Not surprisingly then, we read in The World Book Encyclopedia: “The early Christians did not celebrate His [Christ’s] birth because they considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a pagan custom.”—Volume 3, page 416.

 

[mee]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

Any religion that stipulates no birthday celebration just plain freaks me out.

Jehovah’s Witnesses choose not to share in birthday festivities. To be sure, the birth of a child is a happy, glorious event. Naturally, all parents rejoice as their children grow and develop with each passing year. Jehovah’s Witnesses also find great joy in demonstrating their love for their family and friends by giving gifts and having good times together. However, in view of the origin of birthday celebrations, they prefer to do so at other times throughout the year.—Luke 15:22-25; Acts 20:35.

 

[mee]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

My coworker Mike is heading for Brooklyn and the Watch Tower HQ next week. His son Timothy is in some kind of internship program there. I take it he is volunteering his labor to the organization in exchange for room and board for a period of time. All I know is his papa is awfully proud as the position is hard to get.

Chris

to know that his son is remaining faithful to Gods channel brings great joy indeed for any parent. matthew 24; 45-47 in all walks of life
“No greater cause for thankfulness do I have than these things, that I should be hearing that my children go on walking in the truth.”—3 John 4.

 

[madeinrussia89]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

It still freaks me out, even with every explanation JWs seem to come up with.

While we should celebrate the life, death, and resurrection of Christ everyday, there is absolutely no reason that we shouldn't celebrate Christmas, or our birthdays, or Pascha (especially). The Bible doesn't stipulate to eliminate celebration, that's just insane.

I don't know about you, but I don't correlate Christmas with any pagan holidays, and I don't have a problem with bringing glory to God by celebrating his birth in my home and everywhere I go on Christmas and any time else.

Somehow I think this is sucking the joy out of the lives of children and adults to negate celebrations.

The Scripture doesn't say a lot of the stuff that churches generally do, such as choirs or sunday school, but they don't go around bashing that too do they?

 

[madeinrussia89]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

Not surprisingly then, we read in The World Book Encyclopedia: “The early Christians did not celebrate His [Christ’s] birth because they considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a pagan custom.”—Volume 3, page 416.

Too bad the faith isn't based on the Encyclopedia or I'd be in real trouble.

 

[madeinrussia89]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

It doesn't help that Origen, a prominent early theologian of the time, really supported the idea of not celebrating Christmas, but then again, he had 15 anathemas put against him and was referred to as a heretic so... -shrug-

 

[mee]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

Too bad the faith isn't based on the Encyclopedia or I'd be in real trouble.

christianity is based on the ROCKMASS who is Jesus christ . thats the best foundation.

 

[mee]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

It doesn't help that Origen, a prominent early theologian of the time, really supported the idea of not celebrating Christmas, but then again, he had 15 anathemas put against him and was referred to as a heretic so... -shrug-

yes sticking to the right way makes people a heretic in the eyes of some, take the trinity teaching for example, it is not inline with the bible yet those who stick to the bible are classed as heretics . stick to the bible and we cant go wrong .

 

[mee]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

Any religion that stipulates no birthday celebration just plain freaks me out.

What​

is the origin of popular customs associated with birthday celebrations?​

"The various customs with which people today celebrate their birthdays have a long history. Their origins lie in the realm of magic and religion. The customs of offering congratulations, presenting gifts and celebrating—complete with lighted candles—in ancient times were meant to protect the birthday celebrant from the demons and to ensure his security for the coming year. . . . Down to the fourth century Christianity rejected the birthday celebration as a pagan custom."—Schwäbische Zeitung (magazine supplement Zeit und Welt), April 3/4, 1981, p. 4.

 

[BlaznFattyz]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

take the trinity teaching for example, it is not inline with the bible yet those who stick to the bible are classed as heretics .

The concept of the trinity is inline with bible teaching, from the beginning of creation to revelation, with the Father sending his Son, and the Son sending the Spirit. With the bible saying that the Father raised Jesus, Jesus raised himself, and the Holy Spirit raised Jesus, to all three having a part in Salvation, the baptism of Jesus Christ. With the Father giving honor and glory to the Son who sits on the throne of God. It may not be inline with Watchtower teaching, but it is inline with the Word of God and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. No, people who do not believe in the trinity are not heretics, just misinformed, misguided, and still learning who God is, or simply defiant and arrogant with the allegiance to an organization, culture, pride, that stops them from accepting truth that would make them an outcast.

 

[17th Angel]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

The concept of the trinity is inline with bible teaching.

It also be in line with confusion nonsense..... lol



Charlie: You've got the Father, the Son and the holy ghost. But the three are one - like a shamrock, my old priest used to say. "Three leaves, but one leaf." Now, the father sent down the son, who was love, and then when he went away, he sent down the holy spirit, who came down in the form of a...
Brian:You told me already - a ghost.
Charlie:: No, a dove.
Brian: The dove was a ghost?
Charlie: No, the ghost was a dove.
Brian:: Let me try and summarize this: God is his son. And his son is God. But his son moonlights as a holy ghost, a holy spirit, and a dove. And they all send each other, even though they're all one and the same thing.
Charlie: You've got it. You really could be a nun!

[kekeke I love that part of that film...]

 

[Pathless]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

It also be in line with confusion nonsense..... lol



Charlie: You've got the Father, the Son and the holy ghost. But the three are one - like a shamrock, my old priest used to say. "Three leaves, but one leaf." Now, the father sent down the son, who was love, and then when he went away, he sent down the holy spirit, who came down in the form of a...
Brian:You told me already - a ghost.
Charlie:: No, a dove.
Brian: The dove was a ghost?
Charlie: No, the ghost was a dove.
Brian:: Let me try and summarize this: God is his son. And his son is God. But his son moonlights as a holy ghost, a holy spirit, and a dove. And they all send each other, even though they're all one and the same thing.
Charlie: You've got it. You really could be a nun!

[kekeke I love that part of that film...]

He's baaaaaaa-aaaack.

Cue eerie music.

Just in time for Halloween, eh 17th?

 

[mee]

Re: Jehovah witnesses.

with the Father sending his Son, With the bible saying that the Father raised Jesus, With the Father giving honor and glory to the Son it is inline with the Word of God No, people who do not believe in the trinity are not heretics

Yes the bible is the thing to stick too. and the bible tells us that God sent his son to the earth JOHN 3;16 I JOHN 4;9 ROMANS 8;32 And the bible also tells us that Jesus was raised by his father ACTS 2;24 ACTS 3;15
1 CORINTHIANS 16;4 EPHESIANS 1;20 And the father has given his son Jesus , honor and glory just as the bible tells us .
Jesus Christ, God’s Son, performed worthy deeds that will bring endless blessings to mankind. He perfectly imitated his Father. (John 5:19) His flawless obedience and faithful service made him "worthy to receive the power and the riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing." (Rev. 5:12) His Father honored him by enthroning him as King. (Ps. 2:6-8)
(Daniel 7:14) And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin. ........... yes sticking to the bible we cant go wrong , and then we are not heretics . but many have gone away from true bible teaching and taken on manmade docrines such as the trinity .