what the bible teaches

[juantoo3]

No need too point fingers, you know what you do.

Indeed. I get no self-aggrandizing ego trip from some convoluted new age pseudo-prophetic ideality preached as though it were factual truth.

It is why the old saying suggests....... 'let him who hath understanding'

recon the number of all known life.... C-12.........

So to have understanding, each must have knowledge, and the knowledge to comprehend life in true physical understanding, is not within the KJV..........

all the KJV offer is the ability to understand compassion but not a thing your doctor will ever learn within that book will assist your child through medical attention.........

see the difference?

One type of knowledge shares the old descriptions of addressing the human experience, and one give life with physical UNDERSTANDING.

And to combine the two, offers the truth!

Ah! Now I get where you are coming from, and I see you make the same error of judgement so very many before you have. You are trying to hold the lessons bound in myth and allegory to the scientific standard of proof.

Apples and oranges, my friend. You cannot compare the two in any but the most fringe manner. Two completely different magesteria, as S.J.Gould puts it. Science and fact have no authority over religion and faith, likewise faith and religion have no authority over science and fact.

If you are game, I have an experiment for you. What is love? Take your choice of approach; the scientific "factual" biochemical road, or the religious "faithful" adoration road...either road will lead you to an understanding of love, a "menu" so to speak. But neither one will replace the experience of love, the "meal."

So using science to attempt to undermine religion, or using religion to undermine science, is disingenuous at best. At worst it is hypocritical. In the end the arguments are frivolous and moot, and have nothing to do with righteous behavior. It is all staring at the menu and salivating instead of enjoying the meal.

"Let us hear the whole of the matter; Fear G-d, and keep His commandments." -said Solomon in Ecclesiastes. Doesn't say anything about mysteries there! I believe it is Ezekiel that admonishes that all secret things will be shouted from the roof tops. Hardly an inducement to secrets and mysteries...

You are most welcome of course, to keep staring at your menu, or you are welcome to pull up a chair and enjoy your meal. Please excuse me while I enjoy my meal.

 

[Bishadi]

I get no self-aggrandizing ego trip from some convoluted new age pseudo-prophetic ideality preached as though it were factual truth

As knowledge evolves, the ignorant or complacent may consider it new age.

Apples and oranges, my friend. You cannot compare the two in any but the most fringe manner. Two completely different magesteria, as S.J.Gould puts it. Science and fact have no authority over religion and faith, likewise faith and religion have no authority over science and fact.

Not concerned with pseudo sciences, nor the observance of ‘uncertainties’ to describe phenomena. It seems correct that if the sciences still observe ‘uncertainties’ bound to ‘chaos’ (entropy), then they are incorrect. Likewise, it seems if I wish to share to my children what is true, that to establish magic, miracles and creation as to what makes us alive, is irresponsible.

If you are game, I have an experiment for you. What is love?

and if I play are you willing to do the reading or do you wish for me to just spell it out and you will accept it as true?

So either you can recognize what is true when observed, or you wish to remain complacent.

Take your choice of approach; the scientific "factual" biochemical road, or the religious "faithful" adoration road...either road will lead you to an understanding of love, a "menu" so to speak. But neither one will replace the experience of love, the "meal."

So who do you observe for you definition of love? Freud?

And then if you believe him, you must recognize most all of your imperfections are ‘Mom’s fault.’

So using science to attempt to undermine religion, or using religion to undermine science, is disingenuous at best. At worst it is hypocritical. In the end the arguments are frivolous and moot, and have nothing to do with righteous behavior. It is all staring at the menu and salivating instead of enjoying the meal.

How rude.

"Let us hear the whole of the matter; Fear G-d, and keep His commandments." -said Solomon in Ecclesiastes. Doesn't say anything about mysteries there! I believe it is Ezekiel that admonishes that all secret things will be shouted from the roof tops……

IN one sense, you share knowledge from each branch could never combine, and then post that ‘from the roof tops’ all secrets will be known.

So which is it……?

Let’s start with Love……………… please tell us all why we Love our parents? What physical, literal, practical reality, makes it that one would die to save their parents lives?

Why is there that need or desire to be with a spouse? How is that physically occurring?

And please, we are in the 21st century, use something that is equal to all mankind and not simply based on one book as we all know, there is more “love” ( billion people) in China than in the west, so what you post must also apply to them equally, not faithfully.

 

[Quahom1]

As knowledge evolves, the ignorant or complacent may consider it new age.


Not concerned with pseudo sciences, nor the observance of ‘uncertainties’ to describe phenomena. It seems correct that if the sciences still observe ‘uncertainties’ bound to ‘chaos’ (entropy), then they are incorrect. Likewise, it seems if I wish to share to my children what is true, that to establish magic, miracles and creation as to what makes us alive, is irresponsible.



and if I play are you willing to do the reading or do you wish for me to just spell it out and you will accept it as true?

So either you can recognize what is true when observed, or you wish to remain complacent.

So who do you observe for you definition of love? Freud?

And then if you believe him, you must recognize most all of your imperfections are ‘Mom’s fault.’

How rude.
IN one sense, you share knowledge from each branch could never combine, and then post that ‘from the roof tops’ all secrets will be known.

So which is it……?

Let’s start with Love……………… please tell us all why we Love our parents? What physical, literal, practical reality, makes it that one would die to save their parents lives?

Why is there that need or desire to be with a spouse? How is that physically occurring?

And please, we are in the 21st century, use something that is equal to all mankind and not simply based on one book as we all know, there is more “love” ( billion people) in China than in the west, so what you post must also apply to them equally, not faithfully.

I have a story to tell. It's a good story, and pertenant to this topic. My family bought a sloop rig in 1983, while it was sitting at the bottom of the Detroit river. Once they got it back on the surface and in the boat yard, they decided to restore it to original configuration.

Reality check: It was built in 1936, with the technology of the day (long leaf pine planks @ 50 feet as well as plentiful Alaskan White Cedar, and german made bronze rivets, and german engineering...now all gone.

How to restore it in this "enlightened" age? They went back to the old books, and taught themselves shiprights of a bygone era.

Moral? They had to go back to the original lessons, because this day's enlightenment did nothing for them. Ecclesiastes comes to mind when I read your posts of enlightenment...nothing new under the sun.

Sometimes it pays to blow the dust off of old books of wisdom and actually read what the authors were trying to convey to "future" generations (eh, that's you and me), instead of attempting to invent "new" wisdom.

I opine that your "wisdom" won't save a life (let alone a soul), but my simple wisdom (lesson learned) will and has done both. (do unto others as you would have done unto you).

You're a smart person, and highly intelligent. (there is a difference, and you have both attributes) But the God complex has to go. That really detracts from your appeal.

v/r

Q

 

[Bishadi]

I have a story to tell. It's a good story, and pertenant to this topic. My family bought a sloop rig in 1983, while it was sitting at the bottom of the Detroit river. Once they got it back on the surface and in the boat yard, they decided to restore it to original configuration.

Reality check: It was built in 1936, with the technology of the day (long leaf pine planks @ 50 feet as well as plentiful Alaskan White Cedar, and german made bronze rivets, and german engineering...now all gone.

How to restore it in this "enlightened" age? They went back to the old books, and taught themselves shiprights of a bygone era.

Moral? They had to go back to the original lessons, because this day's enlightenment did nothing for them.

I agree, see what religions have done to this globe when they require complacency to beliefs in phenomenon.

Dialogue fails between sides when values are issued cause, based from a theology.

Ecclesiastes comes to mind when I read your posts of enlightenment...nothing new under the sun.

Good, at least our fathers since the beginning of time were at least trying and maybe just maybe, you could also represent with quality intent rather than offer opinions against a person's 'complex.'

Sometimes it pays to blow the dust off of old books of wisdom and actually read what the authors were trying to convey to "future" generations (eh, that's you and me), instead of attempting to invent "new" wisdom.

Knowledge evolves, just as words, techniques and life has.

question is do you represent the truth of these matters or remain complacent simply by choice?

Seems good to pick up where they left off so to both honor and finish what can be expected; UNDERSTANDING. Basically it take a choice of integrity to observe both the past and future, to be of any moral constitution.

As if the previous generations did not care of the future then no material knowledge would ever convey. So to remain true of honesty to our forefathers, then observe more of our brothers opinions as 'that man is also of my father.'

I opine that your "wisdom" won't save a life (let alone a soul), but my simple wisdom (lesson learned) will and has done both.

So you now judge and have the god complex in one sentence..

(do unto others as you would have done unto you).

Take a seat, ask questions, but please be fair with quality dialogue.

 

[Quahom1]

I agree, see what religions have done to this globe when they require complacency to beliefs in phenomenon.

Dialogue fails between sides when values are issued cause, based from a theology.

Good, at least our fathers since the beginning of time were at least trying and maybe just maybe, you could also represent with quality intent rather than offer opinions against a person's 'complex.'

Knowledge evolves, just as words, techniques and life has.

question is do you represent the truth of these matters or remain complacent simply by choice?

Seems good to pick up where they left off so to both honor and finish what can be expected; UNDERSTANDING. Basically it take a choice of integrity to observe both the past and future, to be of any moral constitution.

As if the previous generations did not care of the future then no material knowledge would ever convey. So to remain true of honesty to our forefathers, then observe more of our brothers opinions as 'that man is also of my father.'

So you now judge and have the god complex in one sentence..



Take a seat, ask questions, but please be fair with quality dialogue.

Nope. I call it as I see it. I saw you coming for miles...

 

[mee]

what the bible teaches




Here is another truth about God’s Kingdom

Jesus will not rule alone. He will have corulers. For example, the apostle Paul told Timothy: "If we go on enduring, we shall also rule together as kings." (2 Timothy 2:12)

Yes, Paul, Timothy, and other faithful ones who have been selected by God will rule together with Jesus in the heavenly Kingdom. How many will have that privilege?
the apostle John was given a vision in which he saw "the Lamb [Jesus Christ] standing upon the Mount Zion [his royal position in heaven], and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads." Who are those 144,000?

John himself tells us: "These are the ones that keep following the Lamb no matter where he goes. These were bought from among mankind as firstfruits to God and to the Lamb." (Revelation 14:1, 4)

Yes, they are faithful followers of Jesus Christ specially chosen to rule in heaven with him. After being raised out of death to heavenly life, "they are to rule as kings over the earth" along with Jesus. (Revelation 5:10)
Since the days of the apostles, God has been selecting faithful Christians in order to complete the number 144,000.


thats what the bible teaches
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[Bishadi]

what the bible teaches





Here is another truth about God’s Kingdom

Jesus will not rule alone. He will have corulers. For example, the apostle Paul told Timothy: "If we go on enduring, we shall also rule together as kings." (2 Timothy 2:12)

Yes, Paul, Timothy, and other faithful ones who have been selected by God will rule together with Jesus in the heavenly Kingdom. How many will have that privilege?
the apostle John was given a vision in which he saw "the Lamb [Jesus Christ] standing upon the Mount Zion [his royal position in heaven], and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads." Who are those 144,000?

John himself tells us: "These are the ones that keep following the Lamb no matter where he goes. These were bought from among mankind as firstfruits to God and to the Lamb." (Revelation 14:1, 4)

Yes, they are faithful followers of Jesus Christ specially chosen to rule in heaven with him. After being raised out of death to heavenly life, "they are to rule as kings over the earth" along with Jesus. (Revelation 5:10)
Since the days of the apostles, God has been selecting faithful Christians in order to complete the number 144,000.


thats what the bible teaches

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the bibles teaches compassion among community, many of the prphecies are a little misqued but still of writting to observe.

coming from this side, take my word for it, i see why so few in such a vast world of people.....

many just have a tough time being truly honest, want to know, represent and then live in pure truth......

kind of sad, isn't it?

 

[mee]

the bibles teaches compassion among community, many of the prphecies are a little misqued but still of writting to observe.

coming from this side, take my word for it, i see why so few in such a vast world of people.....

many just have a tough time being truly honest, want to know, represent and then live in pure truth......

kind of sad, isn't it?

no worries, even though God has only chosen 144,000 to go and rule with Jesus in the heavenly kingdom , there will be a GREAT CROWD from all nations who will go on to inherit the paradise earth revelation 7;9-10 .14 .......matthew 5;5 ......psalm 37;11..... psalm 37;29



for mee i look foreward to a paradise earth nice

 

[Bishadi]

already there.

AS this is the last place any of us will ever have a choice and know it.

So while alive, enjoy heaven; as hell is self imposed.

 

[mee]

already there.

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would you say the earth is a paradise now
with all of the wars, sickness , injustice, death .ect ect ? i think paradise will be more like the promise in the bible

The righteous themselves will possess the earth,
And they will reside forever upon it.psalm 37;29 ​

But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of PEACE .
psalm 37;11 ​

Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.

matthew 5;5​

PEACE PEACE AND PEACE FOREVER ​

and no more sickness and death​

And no resident will say: "I am sick." The people that are dwelling in [the land] will be those pardoned for their error.ISAIAH 33;24


As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 1 CORINTHIANS 15;28


NOW THAT IS PARADISE




and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth."
REVELATION 11;18

 

[Bishadi]

would you say the earth is a paradise now
with all of the wars, sickness , injustice, death .ect ect ? i think paradise will be more like the promise in the bible

Here with 2 feet on the ground is your last place of choice. It is where you can actually create life.

Paradise will be when people know responsibility and observe true knowledge rather than having the idea that they can lie, cheat, kill and murder and the claim Jesus Christ as a savior and no responsibility to all them atrocities are forgiven.

So you tell us all, what is better, behaving in true reality or being complacent fools while continuing the ignorance?

 

[mee]

Here with 2 feet on the ground is your last place of choice. It is where you can actually create life.

Paradise will be when people know responsibility and observe true knowledge rather than having the idea that they can lie, cheat, kill and murder and the claim Jesus Christ as a savior and no responsibility to all them atrocities are forgiven.

So you tell us all, what is better, behaving in true reality or being complacent fools while continuing the ignorance?

The only ones who will survive and get through the great tribulation and gain life in God’s new world, are those who obey what this world calls foolishness—yes, Jehovah’s glorious Kingdom good news.


Soon, Jehovah God will vindicate his universal sovereignty and bring everlasting life to all those now believing and acting on "the foolishness of what is preached."


Instead of trying to be worldly-wise, there is a great crowd who have become ‘fools.’ How? By doing the Kingdom-preaching work so that they may be wise,


yes the kingdom GOODNEWS is foolishness in the eyes of the world ,but for mee it is very good

 

[mee]

And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

matthew 24;14


And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; daniel 2;44


Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. matthew 6-10

 

[BlaznFattyz]

And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

matthew 24;14


And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; daniel 2;44


Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. matthew 6-10

When Jesus was born, the shepherds nearby saw angels, and they were told of the birth of the messiah, and the shepherds went spreading the good news, that the one born is the king, the saviour, and those present, angels and men worshiped baby Jesus, because God is worshiped.

"If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also." Jesus is preparing this kingdom, for all those that believe in Him and call on his name for salvation, for the work of the cross, God's will, has been accomplished. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

When this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God. Since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool, because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

 

[Bishadi]

And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

matthew 24;14


And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; daniel 2;44


Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. matthew 6-10

seems maybe another misuse exists

Matthew 24:14 </SPAN>And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 then ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)

AS to know true Peace within each…….. each must UNDERSTAND Life as it truly is.

“The premises of a moral life is based on a covenant with reality.”

“No life is authentic that is in conflict with the order of the universe.”

Scriptures of Socrates

That beginning of UNDERSTANDING is actually closer than you think

 

[17th Angel]

AS to know true Peace within each…….. each must UNDERSTAND Life as it truly is.

And what is it?

 

[mee]

matthew 24;15
Therefore, when YOU catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,)



yes indeed ,,knowing just what that (disgusting thing )is , aids to understanding indeed .

Their is a Modern-Day "Disgusting Thing" catching sight of ,and recognizing just what it is will aid us greatly


and knowing just what babylon the great is as well, has a lot to do with it .
its all happening in the last days.

 

[Bishadi]

And what is it?

Hello... under the science heading, see "What am I'

In a short version, physically correct; light is life.

And not to be construed in the frame of idea, but in the literal sense of electromagnetism upon mass.

matthew 24;15
Therefore, when YOU catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,)

That disgusting thing is the selfish pride and corruption each person alive is capable of...... and when groups, such as them who think they can do wrong, have no responsibility and then suggest all they have to do is ask a man (JC) to forgive and all them atrocities are supposed to be 'undone'... is about as corrupt as anything on this globe.

yes indeed ,,knowing just what that (disgusting thing )is , aids to understanding indeed .

Their is a Modern-Day "Disgusting Thing" catching sight of ,and recognizing just what it is will aid us greatly

THEN NEVER LIE TO YOURSELF! Be true to existence and not to a belief or faith of false hopes in magic, miracles and omnipotence.

and knowing just what babylon the great is as well, has a lot to do with it .
its all happening in the last days.

That what I believe. as when the people truly know reality as it is, then the false teachings of religious ideals of omnipotence will fall. as when the people know life and reality as it is, then the return to magical hopes will be forever removed as the guidance of humanity.

We are in them days. Now is that time of equality and peace but first there is a little reboot coming, all the ones in first will become last ...etc......

War!

 

[mee]

When Jesus was born, the shepherds nearby saw angels, quote]

yes and so did mary



So the angel said to her: ‘Have no fear, Mary, for you have found favor with God; and, look! you will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son, and you are to call his name Jesus.
This one will be great and will be called ;SON OF THE MOST HIGH and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule as king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end of his kingdom.’"—Luke 1:26-33.



and its all to do with Gods son . and now IN THIS TIME OF THE END he is a reigning king in the heavenly kingdom DANIEL 7;13-14 DANIEL 2;44



And to him there were GIVEN rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin. daniel 7;14



The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. john 3;35 .

For this very reason also God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every [other] name phillippians 2;9.


yes , it is the most high JEHOVAH that has exalted Jesus .

That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth.psalm 83;18​

 

[mee]

We are in them days.

we are in the last days and 1914 was the start of the last days




the disgusting thing is a counterfeit thing indeed.

putting our trust in the right thing is the thing to be doing .Daniel 2;44 yes Daniel 2;44 is what it is all about .


"Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs."—PSALM 146:3.