The Trinity, from the JW view.

[mee]

some can actually lie cheat and steal, such as you have through most of this site,

many people have been misled to think that Gods heavenly kingdom that was set up in 1914 is a lie ,


but it is the truth the bible and what it teaches is the truth and the theme of the kingdom runs right through the bible from Genesis to revelation and it is very good and those who promote that heavenly kingdom have truth in abundance

 

[mee]

What was enjoyable is to realize that based on your interpretation the majority on the globe could be anti christ.......

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according to the bible that could be the case .


Jesus did say that his PRESENCE would be just like the days of Noah, not many in Noahs day got on board did they.



WHILE giving the prophecy about the sign of his presence and of the conclusion of the system of things, Jesus said:


"Just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be." (Matthew 24:3, 37)

Clearly, Jesus foretold that what is happening in our day has a parallel in Noah’s time. A reliable and accurate account of the events of Noah’s day can prove to be an invaluable treasure.

 

[mee]

mee me,

as it appears your selfish intent, has no parameters of human integrity....

lol if i was selfish i would keep the GOODNEWS all to myself but i like to share and give it out because it brings benefit to others and it is very good .
matthew 24;14

This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14)


GOODNEWS
We all like to hear GOODNEWS ITS BETTER THAN BADNEWS

 

[Bishadi]

and the Noah story is based on a samarian tablet with enki and ea about 10k before the injill....

man was noisy!

 

[Bishadi]

lol if i was selfish i would keep the GOODNEWS all to myself but i like to share and give it out because it brings benefit to others and it is very good .
matthew 24;14

This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14)


GOODNEWS
We all like to hear GOODNEWS ITS BETTER THAN BADNEWS

But you scream hell fire........ but have no clue as to where, what, when and how this is....

"Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. '....

Each and every man can read a book that was reprinted and changed, even as you change gods name to fit your definitions..... as if you are the ONE WHO KNOWS................

 

[mee]

mee me,



Meaning; most everyone can appreciate the gifts JC left but I will state quite clearly it is the people who corrupted the works, that created the fools of hypocrits or the blinded people of faith.

yes i agree the teachings of christ have been corrupted indeed ,and it has made people blind.

and they are blind to the GOODNEWS.





If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, 4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through. 5 For we are preaching, not ourselves, but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as YOUR slaves for Jesus’ sake. 6 For God is he who said: "Let the light shine out of darkness," and he has shone on our hearts to illuminate [them] with the glorious knowledge of God by the face of Christ.
2 CORINTHIANS 4;3-6


yes the god of this system is very bad , the whole world is in the power of the wicked one ...1 JOHN 5;19

so its best to do the following


And quit being fashioned after this system of things, but be transformed by making YOUR mind over, that YOU may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.romans 12;2




yes there is a lot of rocking going on, and many desirable ones are being gathered.

‘And I will rock all the nations, and the desirable things of all the nations must come in; and I will fill this house with glory,’ Jehovah of armies has said.
haggai 2;7



here they are and it is a GREAT CROWD


After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: "Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb." revelation 7;9-10







and we all know who that wicked one is ,it is SATAN THE DEVIL

 

[mee]

But you scream hell fire........ quote]


the bible does not teach hellfire , and neither do Jehovahs witnesses .

taking in knowledge based on accurate bible teachings is the thing to be doing . then you will not be misled to believe false teachings such as HELLFIRE

hellfire is not a bible teaching . i am glad to say

 

[mee]

Each and every man can read a book that was reprinted and changed, even as you change gods name to fit your definitions..... as if you are the ONE WHO KNOWS................

Jesus sheep will hear his voice John 10;16

here they are spoken of in revelation 7;9-10 and they are really well fed sheep matthew 24;45-47 they are taking in good spiritual food from the channel that Jesus is feeding . and it is a faithful channel .

 

[Bishadi]

yes i agree the teachings of christ have been corrupted indeed ,and it has made people blind.

Name one or a few.

If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing,

As you seek not the truth but with the veil of a belief.

4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

But you share nothing of the ‘system of things’ just the belief of opinions.

5 For we are preaching, not ourselves, but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as YOUR slaves for Jesus’ sake. 6 For God is he who said: "Let the light shine out of darkness,"

And if you are reading then you would be able to recognize, that ‘light’ of life is not just a metaphor but a physical reality of how all mass associates.

That to know ‘light’ as energy upon mass, following how ‘life’ exists in fact… then you can understand the ‘system of things’ in fact not opinion….

That young friend is the basis of how ‘all answers will be known’….

yes the god of this system is very bad , the whole world is in the power of the wicked one ...1 JOHN 5;19

You are correct the system taught in his day was rude, and the power of lies and deceit has even you following the wickedness of belief.

You must remember, JC was not physically alive when all these stories about him were written down. So as you suggest defending JC, you fail to realize he never said he was pure. HE was a man, stated it, and shared this truth, but men well after his death made his legacy a damaging form of religion; Nicene Creed…. 4th century.

so its best to do the following

The truth and allow your integrity to establish reality versus allowing a fib to continue just to comply to a faith.

And quit being fashioned after this system of things, but be transformed by making YOUR mind over, that YOU may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.romans 12;2

Just as you posted…… think! Use your mind to understand and quit fibbing. Prove to yourself the facts!

yes there is a lot of rocking going on, and many desirable ones are being gathered.

and until you share integrity to facts and reality, I am quite positive, you will not have an invite.

‘And I will rock all the nations, and the desirable things of all the nations must come in; and I will fill this house with glory,’ Jehovah of armies has said.
haggai 2;7

That is a line I said 25 years back…… screw the community, before I am done I will rock this taco stand as nothing can stop the truth…

After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: "Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb." revelation 7;9-10

And then you post a prophecy as if it is fact but have no grounds to back it up in….. meaning what would be the reason for the gathering?

Why would a muslim, hindu or pueblo Indian want to gather?

It seems correct that if knowledge was shared that is in fact true to all, then maybe but not a one will gather just to be slapped in the forehead with the fibs such as you continue to share, as that form has been around for 1500 years or even 96 years and still no magic, no omnipotence, no undoing of sins, nor any Peace is upon this globe at this very moment…. This globe still reels within the deceit of men… the fibs of theology, the misgiving of the selfish who still pursue their own selfish needs and beliefs for their own cause.

and we all know who that wicked one is ,it is SATAN THE DEV

Look in the mirror, as to deceive based on selfish ignorance is one of worst atrocities to humanity any person can impose by choice……

No apple ever killed me, nor does pork…… but to comprehend life and how each choice is important to any continuance…. Then I know by fact that death will never be upon my soul!

If some wish to retain hope and belief as if it is true, then so be it… each make their own choice!

 

[Quahom1]

But you scream hell fire........ quote]


the bible does not teach hellfire , and neither do Jehovahs witnesses .

taking in knowledge based on accurate bible teachings is the thing to be doing . then you will not be misled to believe false teachings such as HELLFIRE

hellfire is not a bible teaching . i am glad to say

Got news for you. Jesus' major statement was "man you don't want to go to hell". So your statement is in error.

Jesus was afraid for us going to HELL, and made that quite clear in his teachings.

 

[Bishadi]

Got news for you. Jesus' major statement was "man you don't want to go to hell". So your statement is in error.

Jesus was afraid for us going to HELL, and made that quite clear in his teachings.

Did you hear his words from your ears? Did he read the bible and endorse the rendition prior to release?

Has man the capability to cause errors of representations by both choice or simple mistake?

Until each can represent with complete integrity to facts, then all else is simply guestimating. (Was that a creation too!)

God is never incorrect but man often is. Try trusting God over the words of men.

 

[Quahom1]

Did you hear his words from your ears? Did he read the bible and endorse the rendition prior to release?

Has man the capability to cause errors of representations by both choice or simple mistake?

Until each can represent with complete integrity to facts, then all else is simply guestimating. (Was that a creation too!)

God is never incorrect but man often is. Try trusting God over the words of men.

...every damn day. And I can read. I also can see. Have a nice day.

 

[mee]

God himself testified that Jesus was his beloved Son, as the Bible writer Matthew noted when Jesus was baptized. (Matthew 3:17)

Other Bible writers noted the same. Mark wrote: "A voice came out of the heavens: ‘You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you.’" (Mark 1:11) Luke said: "A voice came out of heaven: ‘You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you.’" (Luke 3:22)

And John the Baptizer, who baptized Jesus, testified: "I have borne witness that this one [Jesus] is the Son of God." (John 1:34) So God himself, all four Gospel writers, and John the Baptizer clearly state that Jesus was the Son of God. And some time later, at the transfiguration of Jesus, a similar thing happened: "A voice [God’s] came out of the cloud, saying: ‘This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him.’"—Luke 9:35.


as we can see from the bible ,Jesus is not God

 

[BlaznFattyz]

as we can see from the bible ,Jesus is not God

nothing you quoted states this. Jesus is God among us, those that have seen Him have seen the Father, those that listen to him listen to the Father, those that honor him honor the Father. Being that he was sent to us from the Father, from his position with God as God, he is the Son of God, who can only do the will of God, speak the words of God, have the power over life and death as God, and sit in glory and majesty as God. Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

 

[mee]

Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, quote]


yes indeed ,as his father Jehovah said , in luke 9;35




And a voice came out of the cloud, saying: "This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him." luke 9;35



Jesus himself said: "The Father is greater than I am." (John 14:28)

We should believe Jesus, for he surely knew the truth about his relationship to his Father.

The apostle Paul also knew that God was superior to Jesus, and he said: "The Son [Jesus] himself will also subject himself to . . . God." (1 Corinthians 15:28)

This is further seen in Paul’s statement at 1 Corinthians 11:3: "The head of the Christ is God." Jesus acknowledged that he had a superior God when he said to his disciples: "I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God."—John 20:17.


yes as the bible teaches us ,Jesus is not God .

 

[Bishadi]

yes as the bible teaches us ,Jesus is not God .

Not sure if the bible teaches this but nice to see basic common sense set in, that NO MAN is omnipotent or have the so called magic of a god.

as the only trinity to existence is mass, energy and time............

any who wish to suggest god is of man, then know, each of us can create a life as easy as the next; just plant a tree by choice.... :>:>:>

 

[BlaznFattyz]

yes as the bible teaches us ,Jesus is not God .

The bible teaches that Christ has always existed as God and He created all things and thru him all things are sustained. Listen to Him because the words he spoke while among us are the very words of God. When Christ speaks, the Father has spoken, and the Spirit of God reveals that the Son is Lord of all things, our God, and our Saviour. If you deny Christ, you deny God, for God has come to be among us, sending his only Son, the Word of God that is in the very bosom of his being, as Jesus Christ to provide salvation and eternal life for those who believe in Him.

 

[cyberpi]

The bible teaches that Christ has always existed as God and He created all things and thru him all things are sustained. Listen to Him because the words he spoke while among us are the very words of God. When Christ speaks, the Father has spoken, and the Spirit of God reveals that the Son is Lord of all things, our God, and our Saviour. If you deny Christ, you deny God, for God has come to be among us, sending his only Son, the Word of God that is in the very bosom of his being, as Jesus Christ to provide salvation and eternal life for those who believe in Him.

Is God in you?

 

[BlaznFattyz]

Is God in you?

yes, the Holy Spirit dwells within me and comforts me and guides me. I worship and have understanding of the true living God thru the Spirit. And I have forgiveness and a relationship with the Father through the Son. Therefore, since we are justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have obtained access to this grace in which we stand

 

[cyberpi]

yes, the Holy Spirit dwells within me and comforts me and guides me. I worship and have understanding of the true living God thru the Spirit. And I have forgiveness and a relationship with the Father through the Son.

The same with Jesus.