Reconcling Christianity and Islam ?

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Reconciling Christianity and Islam ?

Can it be done ?

Jesus Said

John 14:6 (New International Version)
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
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So where does Mohammad fit into this ?

as far as I can see Mohamed does not fit into this because Mohammad was not a prophet of God.

What are peoples thoughts on this ?
 
No. If yo understand what the Koran (word of God) actually says Islam accepts no place for anything but Islam. Muslims are instructed to lie about that till it is in a position of overwhelming dominance, but it remains true.


tao
 
When is someone going to finally tell him to STFU?
 
GlorytoGod said:
Reconciling Christianity and Islam ?

Can it be done ?

Jesus Said

So where does Mohammad fit into this ?

as far as I can see Mohamed does not fit into this because Mohammad was not a prophet of God.

What are peoples thoughts on this ?
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Hey there Glory,

Have you used the Search for the forum?
 
Tao_Equus said:
No. If you understand what the Koran (word of God) actually says, Islam accepts no place for anything but Islam.
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Where was that again? Was it this part here?.....

YUSUFALI: Let there be no compulsion in religion

PICKTHAL: There is no compulsion in religion.

SHAKIR: There is no compulsion in religion

Which translation of Qur'an, 2:256 do you like best, friend Tao?
 
I think he was being sarcastic to point out all the unwarranted criticisms of Islam.
 
Abrahamic religions (People of the Book) etymology:
Israel: "he that striveth with God"
Islam: "he resigned, he surrendered, he submitted," (to God)
Christian: "the religion of 'the anointed'," (of God)​

To strive, submit, or anoint? All different approaches. It's best to recognize these differences, and then love one another anyway, imo. (Is that perspective too Christian? see John 13:34-35)
 
Netti-Netti said:
Where was that again? Was it this part here?.....

YUSUFALI: Let there be no compulsion in religion

PICKTHAL: There is no compulsion in religion.

SHAKIR: There is no compulsion in religion

Which translation of Qur'an, 2:256 do you like best, friend Tao?
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If you truly understood the jurisprudence of the Koran and understood where abrogation is to be applied you would know that the above were superseded and rendered invalid. Yes!! In the Koran 'Allah' can change his mind!!

We live in a world full of Chamberlains when we need a Churchill.


tao
 
Eclectic Mystic said:
When is someone going to finally tell him to STFU?
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Your bluntness is admirable lol.....

Tao_Equus said:
No. If yo understand what the Koran (word of God) actually says Islam accepts no place for anything but Islam. Muslims are instructed to lie about that till it is in a position of overwhelming dominance, but it remains true.


tao
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Where does it say that? Show me.
 
GlorytoGod said:
Reconciling Christianity and Islam ?

Can it be done ?

Jesus Said

So where does Mohammad fit into this ?

as far as I can see Mohamed does not fit into this because Mohammad was not a prophet of God.

What are peoples thoughts on this ?
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Namaste GtG,

It doesn't look to me that you are seeking reconciliation.

There are many folks of the Islamic faith that are very accepting of others traditions and even honor 'the people of the book' meaning Jews and Christians. And then there exists Sufi's which are interfaith by nature.

If one sees a need to reconcile, then one will point out those things that stop it. However if one sees that it is already reconciled...
 
Christianity: Jesus Christ is God.
Islam: Jesus Christ is not God.

I'd say there's no reconciling that.
 
Alex P said:
Your bluntness is admirable lol.....
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Maybe. Maybe not.



Where does it say that? Show me.
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Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve (8:55)

ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)


[Bayyinah 98:6] Indeed all disbelievers, the People of the Book(s) and the polytheists, are in the fire of hell – they will remain in it for ever; it is they who are the worst among the creation.

"None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?" Surah 2: 106

"When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not." Surah 16:101
 
Christianity: Jesus Christ is God.
Islam: Jesus Christ is not God.

I'd say there's no reconciling that.
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The true reconciliation between the people of Islam and the Christians will be a change in the name of the Orthodox. Islam arose in the gap between the Orthodox Christians and the non-Orthodox Christians, and the claim of orthodoxy is the stone that will be rolled away. If you would lead, then lead by example! My opinion.
 
Tao_Equus said:
"When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not." Surah 16:101
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Well I am not "most of them" I understand very well that Muhammad was just another warlord, using placatory politics to accrue allies in the beginning and then changing his tune when he achieved dominance. Muhammad was a bloodthirsty, devious and extremely malicious psychopath. Nothing more, nothing less. Maybe many Muslims do not understand the fact of what their religion says but the leaders and the coven of deceptive propagandists that take liberties with the truth to promote a so called 'peaceful Islam' do. Such deception is written into the Koran, it is an order, a command. And that is the truth.

tao
 
Dream said:
The true reconciliation between the people of Islam and the Christians will be a change in the name of the Orthodox. Islam arose in the gap between the Orthodox Christians and the non-Orthodox Christians, and the claim of orthodoxy is the stone that will be rolled away. If you would lead, then lead by example! My opinion.
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Que?

Isn't this thread about somehow combining the two doctrines into one? The doctrines are mutually incompatible.

Christianity teaches that Jesus is God, and this is a central dogma.
Islam teaches that Jesus is not God.

The two are mutually incompatible.

This has nothing to do with whether or not people adhering to these doctrines cannot learn to tolerate each other. There are times when one simply agrees to disagree and doesn't pursue the matter further.
 
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