Is Britain no longer a 'Christian' country?

Richard Pickett said:
That would be your opinion which you are entitled to...
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Well that is a nonresponse of adequate proportions. What about my statement you quoted in your post #79 do you disagree with.

Are you saying that you believe people will have a problem with your stance even if you allow other people to live by their own standards? In which case I would agree with you that is unfair. Though I am not sure I agree that is what is happening.

Or are you saying that you should have a right to prevent people from acting in such ways that you find religiously unacceptable?

Curious minds want to know!
 
Devils' Advocate said:
Well that is a nonresponse of adequate proportions. What about my statement you quoted in your post #79 do you disagree with.

Are you saying that you believe people will have a problem with your stance even if you allow other people to live by their own standards? In which case I would agree with you that is unfair. Though I am not sure I agree that is what is happening.

Or are you saying that you should have a right to prevent people from acting in such ways that you find religiously unacceptable?

Curious minds want to know!
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You sa conservatives want to push their religious beliefs on others, I disagree. As a conservative I wish to be able to practice m religious beliefs without the courts becoming involved. If I feel as though I do not wish to participate in something that is against my religious beliefs as a Christian, that does not mean I am forcing you or anyone else to accept it or live with my religious choice. Sticking up for and forcing them on someone else are two different things. I am glad you have a curious mind.
 
Which religious belief is the court impeding?

I am thinking prolly gay marriage? You don't want to perform them? Or do you not want gays in your church? I am taking it you took that road in the Episcopalian split?
 
Richard Pickett said:
Sticking up for and forcing them on someone else are two different things.
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There is a difference, but without context it is meaningless. Let's say it's your religious belief to burn witches, are you saying it's your right as a Christian to stick up for that belief and practice it and that is different from forcing that on others?
 
Richard Pickett said:
Sticking up for and forcing them on someone else are two different things.
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Yep. Entirely different things. Appreciate the clarification.

Tea has a point as well. One cannot do just anything and justify it with 'it is my religious belief'. And sometimes secular law of the country must and should disqualify some religious practices because the society at large finds those specific practices immoral.

His example doesn't really qualify though, as burning someone to death, I do believe, is forcing one person's religious beliefs on another person. And then some!
 
A Cup Of Tea said:
There is a difference, but without context it is meaningless. Let's say it's your religious belief to burn witches, are you saying it's your right as a Christian to stick up for that belief and practice it and that is different from forcing that on others?
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That is hypothetical, burning witches went out with Salem.... One must use common sense, however if one does not believe in the morality of homosexuality then yes defending that belief is justified in my opinion.
 
Devils' Advocate said:
Yep. Entirely different things. Appreciate the clarification.

Tea has a point as well. One cannot do just anything and justify it with 'it is my religious belief'. And sometimes secular law of the country must and should disqualify some religious practices because the society at large finds those specific practices immoral.

His example doesn't really qualify though, as burning someone to death, I do believe, is forcing one person's religious beliefs on another person. And then some!
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We must also remember that burnt offerings also went out after the resurrection of Christ. Christianity has evolved from the barbaric past, unlike the sharia law of Islam.
 
Richard Pickett said:
That is hypothetical, burning witches went out with Salem.... One must use common sense, however if one does not believe in the morality of homosexuality then yes defending that belief is justified in my opinion.
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That is a non-answer though. Rolling back to common sense is very little grounds for a discussion. I wouldn't put any stock in the common sense of medieval witch-burners, old timey-slave owners or just the garden variety wife-beater, not that they aren't very smart or have common sense but their frame of reference is incompatible with mine.
 
Richard Pickett said:
That is hypothetical, burning witches went out with Salem.... One must use common sense, however if one does not believe in the morality of homosexuality then yes defending that belief is justified in my opinion.
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Sorry to stick my nose in but this information seems apropos - Declared witches are still burned (or beheaded) in many places. Saudi Arabia, Nepal, Gambia, Tanzamia, India, Uganda and more...yep, I Googled...
 
Richard Pickett said:
We must also remember that burnt offerings also went out after the resurrection of Christ. Christianity has evolved from the barbaric past, unlike the sharia law of Islam.
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Weren't burnt offerings really the way to feed the temple priests? Bring us your best calf...I like them medium rare?
Wasn't that replaced by the offering plate?
 
EdgyDolmen said:
Sorry to stick my nose in but this information seems apropos - Declared witches are still burned (or beheaded) in many places. Saudi Arabia, Nepal, Gambia, Tanzamia, India, Uganda and more...yep, I Googled...
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In the name of Christianity? If so which denominations practice this?
 
Richard Pickett said:
You say conservatives want to push their religious beliefs on others, I disagree.
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This may well be a perceived thing in the US which, as ever, says more about the character of the American citizen than it does about the religion. Here in the UK we don't, and the 'conservatives' tend to keep themselves to themselves.

If you look on the web, for example, comment from the followers of the Sophia Perennis is almost non-existent, and many of the forums I belonged to have simply ceased to exist.

By far the most vociferous and dogmatic element are those who are self-appointed commentators on religion. Whether they actually have any religious affiliation is another matter, but again I'd say those who hold their own unique views on religion are the majority by far.

In the UK religion was not a issue. Now it is, and largely because secular extremists want to make it one.
 
Here in the states God Bless America is becoming a thing....folks edging it in as if it is a second national anthem....playing it.at ball games, expecting folks to stand and take off hats... Seems like this has been growing past 20 years...
 
Thomas said:
This may well be a perceived thing in the US which, as ever, says more about the character of the American citizen than it does about the religion. Here in the UK we don't, and the 'conservatives' tend to keep themselves to themselves.

If you look on the web, for example, comment from the followers of the Sophia Perennis is almost non-existent, and many of the forums I belonged to have simply ceased to exist.

By far the most vociferous and dogmatic element are those who are self-appointed commentators on religion. Whether they actually have any religious affiliation is another matter, but again I'd say those who hold their own unique views on religion are the majority by far.

In the UK religion was not a issue. Now it is, and largely because secular extremists want to make it one.
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How may I ask have or have not, things changed with the influx of Syrian and Iraqi refugees?
 
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