1914 ....A significant year in bible prophecy

I'm as confused as you are mee. If a Bible translation (NWT) can be dismissed as a "tract", what other Bible translations can be dismissed in a similar manner?
oh well , the powers that be will do what they are more than likely persuaded to do .......... does that ring any bells it does with me,
But the chief priests yell: ‘Take him away! Kill him! Kill him!’ So Pilate lets Bar·ab´bas go free, and they take Jesus away to be killed............... just my thoughts running away with me............. Jesus spoke the truth and the so called religious leaders did not like it. and the crowds were whipped up into a frenzy .yes so called religious leaders have a lot to answer for . not only in the past but also down through the centuries, and the frenzy goes on.so as this thread is about the very significant date of 1914 inline with fullfilled bible prophecy and chronology , which is the truth inline with the bible , i wonder how so called religious leaders respond to that truth , hmmmmmmmmm
 
I wonder why people are still persudaded to join the JWs when they have like a million and five false prophecies under their belts. Do people care about truth anymore? I mean seriously, how many things you have to get wrong before we call you a false prophet?

In OT times, the J duds would have been stoned to death already.
 
I wonder why people are still persudaded to join the JWs when they have like a million and five false prophecies under their belts. Do people care about truth anymore? I mean seriously, how many things you have to get wrong before we call you a false prophet?

In OT times, the J duds would have been stoned to death already.
they become JW because they havent been misled like others have .they recognize the truth like i did, and if we look in the bible we can see that those who remained faithful to God did not get stoned they were Jehovahs friends . faithfulness leads to great blessings and insight especially in the last days
"As regards those having insight among the people, they will impart understanding to the many."—DANIEL 11:33.
(Matthew 13:11) In reply he said: "To YOU it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of the heavens, but to those people it is not granted.
(Matthew 24:45) "Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?
(Isaiah 32:3) And the eyes of those seeing will not be pasted together, and the very ears of those hearing will pay attention.

(Daniel 12:10) Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will certainly act wickedly, and no wicked ones at all will understand; but the ones having insight will understand..........yes its all happening in the last days , dont get left behind.
And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant."Daniel 12;4 there has been lots of roving around the bible , but now in the last days the true knowledge has certainly become abundant. yes Jehovah has done a great sifting work over the years and some who have not remained faithful to Jehovah do not get the blessings and insight . only the faithful ones , and then they inturn feed THE GREAT CROWD OF other sheep. yes its all happening . dont be misled by unfaithful ones they are not giving people good healthy spiritual food they are dishing up rubbish food which will eventually lead to death and not to everlasting life .there is only one way to go to get everlasting life and that is to take in knowledge about Jehovah and his son Jesus christ John 17;3 and its all in the bible .thrilling times indeed

 
How

Historians View 1914


For good reasons, the war that began in 1914 has been called the Great War and World War I. No war as devastating had ever been fought before. Wars since then have only continued what began in 1914. Consider these comments about the effects of that momentous year:



● "Not only had the war changed the map of Europe and set off revolutions that destroyed three empires, but its direct and indirect effects went far beyond that in almost every field. After the war both politicians and others tried to slow down or halt the evolution and bring things back to ‘normal’ again, to the world that had existed before 1914. But that was impossible. The earthquake had been so violent and so prolonged that the old world had been torn down to its foundation. There was no one that could rebuild it the way it had been, with its social systems, its world of ideas and its moral principles.
". . . Not of least importance was the change of values that had taken place and which had established a completely new standard of values in so many fields. . . . It was not only the soldiers at the front that had become brutalized and careless with the neighbor’s property. Not only had many illusions, much prejudice and many false values been shattered but also many traditional standards for life and social behavior. Values were changing, everything seemed to be drifting, as if things no longer had any deep roots—so it was in the financial system as well as with sexual morality, with the political principles as well as the laws of art. . . .
"The fundamental insecurity that characterized the time was especially noticeable in the economic field. Here the war had brutally destroyed a complex, flexible and well-balanced system with strict laws and steady values. . . . Neither in this field was it possible to return to ‘the normal.’"—VärldshistoriaFolkens liv och Kultur (Stockholm; 1958), Vol. VII, pages 421, 422.



● "Half a century has gone by, yet the mark that the tragedy of the Great War left on the body and soul of the nations has not faded . . . The physical and moral magnitude of this ordeal was such that nothing left was the same as before. Society in its entirety: systems of government, national borders, laws, armed forces, interstate relations, but also ideologies, family life, fortunes, positions, personal relations—everything was changed from top to bottom. . . . Humanity finally lost its balance, never to recover it to this day."—General Charles de Gaulle, speaking in 1968 (Le Monde, November 12, 1968).


● "Ever since 1914, everybody conscious of trends in the world has been deeply troubled by what has seemed like a fated and pre-determined march toward ever greater disaster. Many serious people have come to feel that nothing can be done to avert the plunge towards ruin. They see the human race, like the hero of a Greek tragedy, driven on by angry gods and no longer the master of fate."—Bertrand Russell, New York Times Magazine, September 27, 1953.


● "Looking back from the vantage point of the present we see clearly today that the outbreak of World War I ushered in a twentieth-century ‘Time of Troubles’—in the expressive term of the British historian Arnold Toynbee—from which our civilization has by no means yet emerged. Directly or indirectly all the convulsions of the last half century stem back to 1914."—The Fall of the Dynasties: The Collapse of the Old Order (New York; 1963), by Edmond Taylor, page 16.


But what accounts for such a world-shattering turn of events?
Only the Bible gives a satisfying explanation.





 
How

Historians View 1914


For good reasons, the war that began in 1914 has been called the Great War and World War I. No war as devastating had ever been fought before. Wars since then have only continued what began in 1914. Consider these comments about the effects of that momentous year:



● "Not only had the war changed the map of Europe and set off revolutions that destroyed three empires, but its direct and indirect effects went far beyond that in almost every field. After the war both politicians and others tried to slow down or halt the evolution and bring things back to ‘normal’ again, to the world that had existed before 1914. But that was impossible. The earthquake had been so violent and so prolonged that the old world had been torn down to its foundation. There was no one that could rebuild it the way it had been, with its social systems, its world of ideas and its moral principles.
". . . Not of least importance was the change of values that had taken place and which had established a completely new standard of values in so many fields. . . . It was not only the soldiers at the front that had become brutalized and careless with the neighbor’s property. Not only had many illusions, much prejudice and many false values been shattered but also many traditional standards for life and social behavior. Values were changing, everything seemed to be drifting, as if things no longer had any deep roots—so it was in the financial system as well as with sexual morality, with the political principles as well as the laws of art. . . .
"The fundamental insecurity that characterized the time was especially noticeable in the economic field. Here the war had brutally destroyed a complex, flexible and well-balanced system with strict laws and steady values. . . . Neither in this field was it possible to return to ‘the normal.’"—VärldshistoriaFolkens liv och Kultur (Stockholm; 1958), Vol. VII, pages 421, 422.



● "Half a century has gone by, yet the mark that the tragedy of the Great War left on the body and soul of the nations has not faded . . . The physical and moral magnitude of this ordeal was such that nothing left was the same as before. Society in its entirety: systems of government, national borders, laws, armed forces, interstate relations, but also ideologies, family life, fortunes, positions, personal relations—everything was changed from top to bottom. . . . Humanity finally lost its balance, never to recover it to this day."—General Charles de Gaulle, speaking in 1968 (Le Monde, November 12, 1968).


● "Ever since 1914, everybody conscious of trends in the world has been deeply troubled by what has seemed like a fated and pre-determined march toward ever greater disaster. Many serious people have come to feel that nothing can be done to avert the plunge towards ruin. They see the human race, like the hero of a Greek tragedy, driven on by angry gods and no longer the master of fate."—Bertrand Russell, New York Times Magazine, September 27, 1953.


● "Looking back from the vantage point of the present we see clearly today that the outbreak of World War I ushered in a twentieth-century ‘Time of Troubles’—in the expressive term of the British historian Arnold Toynbee—from which our civilization has by no means yet emerged. Directly or indirectly all the convulsions of the last half century stem back to 1914."—The Fall of the Dynasties: The Collapse of the Old Order (New York; 1963), by Edmond Taylor, page 16.


But what accounts for such a world-shattering turn of events?
Only the Bible gives a satisfying explanation.


This makes no sense whatsoever.
 
How




Historians View 1914


For good reasons, the war that began in 1914 has been called the Great War and World War I. No war as devastating had ever been fought before. Wars since then have only continued what began in 1914. Consider these comments about the effects of that momentous year:



● "Not only had the war changed the map of Europe and set off revolutions that destroyed three empires, but its direct and indirect effects went far beyond that in almost every field. After the war both politicians and others tried to slow down or halt the evolution and bring things back to ‘normal’ again, to the world that had existed before 1914. But that was impossible. The earthquake had been so violent and so prolonged that the old world had been torn down to its foundation. There was no one that could rebuild it the way it had been, with its social systems, its world of ideas and its moral principles.
". . . Not of least importance was the change of values that had taken place and which had established a completely new standard of values in so many fields. . . . It was not only the soldiers at the front that had become brutalized and careless with the neighbor’s property. Not only had many illusions, much prejudice and many false values been shattered but also many traditional standards for life and social behavior. Values were changing, everything seemed to be drifting, as if things no longer had any deep roots—so it was in the financial system as well as with sexual morality, with the political principles as well as the laws of art. . . .
"The fundamental insecurity that characterized the time was especially noticeable in the economic field. Here the war had brutally destroyed a complex, flexible and well-balanced system with strict laws and steady values. . . . Neither in this field was it possible to return to ‘the normal.’"—VärldshistoriaFolkens liv och Kultur (Stockholm; 1958), Vol. VII, pages 421, 422.



● "Half a century has gone by, yet the mark that the tragedy of the Great War left on the body and soul of the nations has not faded . . . The physical and moral magnitude of this ordeal was such that nothing left was the same as before. Society in its entirety: systems of government, national borders, laws, armed forces, interstate relations, but also ideologies, family life, fortunes, positions, personal relations—everything was changed from top to bottom. . . . Humanity finally lost its balance, never to recover it to this day."—General Charles de Gaulle, speaking in 1968 (Le Monde, November 12, 1968).


● "Ever since 1914, everybody conscious of trends in the world has been deeply troubled by what has seemed like a fated and pre-determined march toward ever greater disaster. Many serious people have come to feel that nothing can be done to avert the plunge towards ruin. They see the human race, like the hero of a Greek tragedy, driven on by angry gods and no longer the master of fate."—Bertrand Russell, New York Times Magazine, September 27, 1953.


● "Looking back from the vantage point of the present we see clearly today that the outbreak of World War I ushered in a twentieth-century ‘Time of Troubles’—in the expressive term of the British historian Arnold Toynbee—from which our civilization has by no means yet emerged. Directly or indirectly all the convulsions of the last half century stem back to 1914."—The Fall of the Dynasties: The Collapse of the Old Order (New York; 1963), by Edmond Taylor, page 16.


But what accounts for such a world-shattering turn of events?
Only the Bible gives a satisfying explanation.









Quite inaccurate Mee. The bloodiest war in recent history is agreed upon by most historians as the "Civil War" of the United States (circa 1860-1866). Even Europe looked on in absolute fascinating "Horror" as brother butchered brother, father killed son, cousin, destroyed cousin. WWI pales in comparrison to the ferocity the Americans had toward each other. Four hour battles with 50,000 dead, when all was said and done. Better check your history again.

v/r

Q

p.s. distorting the facts of this world to suite your religious beliefs really gets old after awhile, especially when there are objective documents that can be called upon to refute one's "opinion".
 
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its not about the bloodiest war ,its about nation against nation matthew 24;7 and the turning point from then on . as others have mentioned, world war 2 was bad as well . and 1914 is a very significant date when it comes to bible prophecy and chronology.
yes it was the start of the end , and for those who do not dismiss bible prophecy and chronology it doesnt get old ,it has great meaning . and they can see quite clearly just where they are in the stream of time .:)






The Great Prophet, Jesus Christ, gave a composite "sign" of things that would occur to mark not only the conclusion of the Jewish system of things in the first century but the end of the worldwide system of things today.


In addition to warning of "wars and reports of wars," he foretold global conflagrations that would blaze up in which ‘nation would rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom.’ Also, there would be "food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another."—Matthew 24:3-8.



Jesus also foretold the advent of many false prophets, who would appear on the basis of his name and would mislead multitudes by ignoring the importance of the "sign" that would mark his presence in Kingdom power.


They would not see any meaning in the composite "sign" given by Jesus, as recorded in Matthew, chapters 24 and 25, nor in the other signs that would mark our momentous time, such as the general corrupting of society and the ruining of the earth. But have we not witnessed such events in the 20th century? and now we are well along .

its all happening do not ignore the signs of the times

 
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its not about the bloodiest war ,its about nation against nation matthew 24;7 and the turning point from then on . as others have mentioned, world war 2 was bad as well . and 1914 is a very significant date when it comes to bible prophecy and chronology.
yes it was the start of the end , and for those who do not dismiss bible prophecy and chronology it doesnt get old ,it has great meaning . and they can see quite clearly just where they are in the stream of time .:)







The Great Prophet, Jesus Christ, gave a composite "sign" of things that would occur to mark not only the conclusion of the Jewish system of things in the first century but the end of the worldwide system of things today.


In addition to warning of "wars and reports of wars," he foretold global conflagrations that would blaze up in which ‘nation would rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom.’ Also, there would be "food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another."—Matthew 24:3-8.



Jesus also foretold the advent of many false prophets, who would appear on the basis of his name and would mislead multitudes by ignoring the importance of the "sign" that would mark his presence in Kingdom power.


They would not see any meaning in the composite "sign" given by Jesus, as recorded in Matthew, chapters 24 and 25, nor in the other signs that would mark our momentous time, such as the general corrupting of society and the ruining of the earth. But have we not witnessed such events in the 20th century? and now we are well along .

its all happening do not ignore the signs of the times


That's right mee, and for a brief moment in time we became two nations, though we were definitely "brothers" And we were the fiercest of foes. You really need to read your history more...
 
yes ,as many have stated


1914—A

TURNING POINT IN HISTORY



Even after a second world war, many refer back to 1914 as the great turning point in modern history:



"It is indeed the year 1914 rather than that of Hiroshima which marks the turning point in our time."—René Albrecht-Carrié, The Scientific Monthly, July 1951.


"Ever since 1914, everybody conscious of trends in the world has been deeply troubled by what has seemed like a fated and predetermined march toward ever greater disaster. Many serious people have come to feel that nothing can be done to avert the plunge towards ruin. They see the human race, like the hero of a Greek tragedy, driven on by angry gods and no longer the master of fate."—Bertrand Russell, The New York Times Magazine, September 27, 1953.


"The modern era . . . began in 1914, and no one knows when or how it will end. . . . It could end in mass annihilation."—The Seattle Times, January 1, 1959.


"In the year 1914 the world, as it was known and accepted then, came to an end."—James Cameron, 1914, published in 1959.


"The whole world really blew up about World War I and we still don’t know why. . . . Utopia was in sight. There was peace and prosperity. Then everything blew up. We’ve been in a state of suspended animation ever since."—Dr. Walker Percy, American Medical News, November 21, 1977.


"In 1914 the world lost a coherence which it has not managed to recapture since. . . . This has been a time of extraordinary disorder and violence, both across national frontiers and within them."—The Economist, London, August 4, 1979.


"Civilization entered on a cruel and perhaps terminal illness in 1914."—Frank Peters, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, January 27, 1980.


"Everything would get better and better. This was the world I was born in. . . . Suddenly, unexpectedly, one morning in 1914 the whole thing came to an end."—British statesman Harold Macmillan, The New York Times, November 23, 1980





 
the year 1914 was marked for a very good reason. It signaled the start of the righteous rule toward the earth by God’s Kingdom.
It spelled doom for the wicked. It pointed to "the last days" of this ungodly system of things. (2 Timothy 3:1) It signaled a countdown to the start of a Paradise earth.


yes 1914 was the start of the end , and now we are very well along and the great Day of Jehovah is near ZEPHENIAH 1;14
 
yes ,as many have stated


1914—A


TURNING POINT IN HISTORY




Even after a second world war, many refer back to 1914 as the great turning point in modern history:



"It is indeed the year 1914 rather than that of Hiroshima which marks the turning point in our time."—René Albrecht-Carrié, The Scientific Monthly, July 1951.


"Ever since 1914, everybody conscious of trends in the world has been deeply troubled by what has seemed like a fated and predetermined march toward ever greater disaster. Many serious people have come to feel that nothing can be done to avert the plunge towards ruin. They see the human race, like the hero of a Greek tragedy, driven on by angry gods and no longer the master of fate."—Bertrand Russell, The New York Times Magazine, September 27, 1953.


"The modern era . . . began in 1914, and no one knows when or how it will end. . . . It could end in mass annihilation."—The Seattle Times, January 1, 1959.


"In the year 1914 the world, as it was known and accepted then, came to an end."—James Cameron, 1914, published in 1959.


"The whole world really blew up about World War I and we still don’t know why. . . . Utopia was in sight. There was peace and prosperity. Then everything blew up. We’ve been in a state of suspended animation ever since."—Dr. Walker Percy, American Medical News, November 21, 1977.


"In 1914 the world lost a coherence which it has not managed to recapture since. . . . This has been a time of extraordinary disorder and violence, both across national frontiers and within them."—The Economist, London, August 4, 1979.


"Civilization entered on a cruel and perhaps terminal illness in 1914."—Frank Peters, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, January 27, 1980.


"Everything would get better and better. This was the world I was born in. . . . Suddenly, unexpectedly, one morning in 1914 the whole thing came to an end."—British statesman Harold Macmillan, The New York Times, November 23, 1980








Actually the Germanic/Prussians in the 1870s started troubling people. The Kaiser was very aggresive in his quest for power.

And most historians consider the first successful test of the Hydrogen Bomb in New Mexico in 1944 to be a turning point in man's history. For the first time, man became capable of self extinction, within short order.

The "modern era" of man actually began with the dawning of the industrial age (circa 1732), with the first successful steam engines being used in manufacture and transportation.

These "quotes" are individual opinions, not statements of fact, nor even factual observations. They are also convenient in that these selective comments are exactly what certain groups want to hear, in order to "justify" their own beliefs on particlar issues.

v/r

Q
 
These "quotes" are individual opinions, not statements of fact, nor even factual observations. They are also convenient in that these selective comments are exactly what certain groups want to hear, in order to "justify" their own beliefs on particlar issues.

v/r

Q

"The​
Time of the End" Confirmed

World events from 1914 onward confirm that the above understanding based on Bible chronology is correct. Jesus himself said that "the conclusion of the system of things" would be marked by wars, famines, and pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Revelation 6:2-8) That has certainly been the case since 1914. The apostle Paul added to the picture, saying that there would be a marked difference in the attitudes of people toward one another. His description of the changes that we have all witnessed was right on target.—2 Timothy 3:1-5.​
 
"The​
Time of the End" Confirmed

World events from 1914 onward confirm that the above understanding based on Bible chronology is correct. Jesus himself said that "the conclusion of the system of things" would be marked by wars, famines, and pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Revelation 6:2-8) That has certainly been the case since 1914. The apostle Paul added to the picture, saying that there would be a marked difference in the attitudes of people toward one another. His description of the changes that we have all witnessed was right on target.—2 Timothy 3:1-5.
There have been wars, famines and pestilences since the day of Jesus' asscention. Paul was not a prophet, and the marked attitude may have been alluding to the attitudes non-Christians of his era forward would have towards these new followers in Jesus.
 
There have been wars, famines and pestilences since the day of Jesus' asscention. Paul was not a prophet, and the marked attitude may have been alluding to the attitudes non-Christians of his era forward would have towards these new followers in Jesus.
attitutes of people have changed since 1914 .



But know this, that in the last days critical times hard (fierce)to deal with will be here
For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty,
(or"superior-appearing.")
blasphemers,
(Or, "speaking abusively.")
disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal,

having no natural affection, not open to any agreement,
(litrally"truceless.")

slanderers,
(Litrally., "devils." Gr., di·a´bo·loi.)

without self-control, fierce, (litrally untamed)without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God,
having a form of godly devotion
("Godly devotion." Litrally., "revering well.")
but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.


its all happening ..............2 timothy 3;1-5
 
attitutes of people have changed since 1914 .

first of all it is attitudes, secondly who said peoples attitudes have changed and even if they did what were the factors involved? who took a survey before 1914 to base a comparison of attitudes?
 
first of all it is attitudes, secondly who said peoples attitudes have changed and even if they did what were the factors involved? who took a survey before 1914 to base a comparison of attitudes?
:) i dont thing we need to have a survey it is very clear to see. attitudes of people have changed even in my lifetime , and the ones even older than me have seen an even more bigger change in peoples attitudes . the facts are very clear to see . its crystal clear .
 
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