1914 ....A significant year in bible prophecy

[BlaznFattyz]

i dont thing we need to have a survey it is very clear to see. attitudes of people have changed even in my lifetime , and the ones even older than me have seen an even more bigger change in peoples attitudes . the facts are very clear to see . its crystal clear .

i think you are basing stuff on an opinion, twisting it to fit your preconceived notion with no facts to back it up... as usual.

 

[mee]

i think you are basing stuff on an opinion, twisting it to fit your preconceived notion with no facts to back it up... as usual.

no need to twist anything it is very straight foreward . but there is a lot of twisting going on, in more ways than one , and it really does blind people to the truth of the bible .



For you know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: ‘Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning.’"—2 Peter 3:1-4; 2:1, 2.



yes 1914 was the start of the last days , and there are many in opposition to the things happening in the last days.


and true knowledge is also the thing that people are in opposition too DANIEL 12;4

 

[BlaznFattyz]

no need to twist anything it is very straight foreward .

clear as mud is more like it.

 

[mee]

clear as mud is more like it.

The angel’s declaration to Daniel, which began back at Daniel 10:20, now concludes with these heartwarming words:

"And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant." (Daniel 12:4)

Much of what Daniel was inspired to write was indeed made secret and sealed up to human understanding. Why, Daniel himself later wrote: "Now as for me, I heard, but I could not understand." (Daniel 12:8) In this sense Daniel’s book remained sealed for centuries. What about today?


We are privileged to live in "the time of the end" foretold in the book of Daniel.
As prophesied, many faithful ones have ‘roved about’ in the pages of God’s Word.
The result?
With Jehovah’s blessing, true knowledge has become abundant.
The faithful anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight enabling them to understand that the Son of man became King in 1914, to identify the beasts of Daniel’s prophecy, to warn against "the disgusting thing that is causing desolation"—and these are just a few examples. (Daniel 11:31)

This abundance of knowledge, then, is yet another identifying mark of "the holy ones of the Supreme One."​

 

[BlaznFattyz]

The faithful anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight enabling them to understand that the Son of man became King in 1914, to identify the beasts of Daniel’s prophecy, to warn against "the disgusting thing that is causing desolation"​

self-proclamation of nothing that has to do with Christ making all things new with his death on the cross and resurrection, and glorified ascension back to heaven.

 

[mee]

self-proclamation of nothing that has to do with Christ making all things new with his death on the cross and resurrection, and glorified ascension back to heaven.

MATTHEW 24;45-47 Jesus has given all his belongings to the faithful ones and they have great responsibilty.


they are feeding mee and all of these ones also .


After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: "Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb."revelation 7;9-10




yes they have been given insight indeed .

 

[mee]

self-proclamation of nothing that has to do with Christ making all things new with his death on the cross and resurrection, and glorified ascension back to heaven.

Kiss the son,

learn discipline, recieve instruction, accept correction




The nations as a whole have not responded to this invitation, but many individuals have.

A ruin, a ruin, a ruin I shall make it. As for this also, it will certainly become no [one’s] until he comes who has the legal right, and I must give [it] to him.’
ezekiel 21;27

 

[mee]

In Bible times, kissing was an expression of friendship and faithfulness. It was a way to welcome guests. The kings of the earth are commanded to kiss the Son—that is, welcome him as the Messianic King.



Jesus was given kingship in 1914 and he now has even greater aurthority Daniel 7;13-14.


Take note of PSALM 2




And this is what people should be doing NOW ,





Why have the nations been in tumult

And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing?
2 The kings of earth take their stand
And high officials themselves have massed together as one
Against Jehovah and against his anointed one,
3 [Saying:] "Let us tear their bands apart
And cast their cords away from us!"
4 The very One sitting in the heavens will laugh;
Jehovah himself will hold them in derision.
5 At that time he will speak to them in his anger
And in his hot displeasure he will disturb them,
6 [Saying:] "I, even I, have installed my king
Upon Zion, my holy mountain."
7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah;
He has said to me: "You are my son;
I, today, I have become your father.
8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance
And the ends of the earth as your own possession.
9 You will break them with an iron scepter,
As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces."

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And now, O kings, exercise insight;

Let yourselves be corrected, O judges of the earth.


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Serve Jehovah with fear

And be joyful with trembling.


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KiISS THE SON that He may not become incensed

And YOU may not perish [from] the way,
For his anger flares up easily.
Happy are all those taking refuge in him.




YES ,WELCOMING THE NEWLY CROWDED KING JESUS CHRIST is the thing to be doing i am waving my symbolic palm branch along with all of these other ones spoken of in REVELATION 7;9-10

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[mee]

God’s Kingdom is a heavenly government with Jesus Christ as King, and from among mankind, 144,000 are taken to rule with him.—Revelation 14:1, 4.​

The Kingdom started to rule in 1914, and since then Satan has been cast out of heaven down to earth.—Revelation 12:9.​

God’s Kingdom will soon destroy human governments, and the earth will become a paradise.—Revelation 16:14, 16.​

 

[Quahom1]

God’s Kingdom is a heavenly government with Jesus Christ as King, and from among mankind, 144,000 are taken to rule with him.—Revelation 14:1, 4.​

The Kingdom started to rule in 1914, and since then Satan has been cast out of heaven down to earth.—Revelation 12:9.​

God’s Kingdom will soon destroy human governments, and the earth will become a paradise.—Revelation 16:14, 16.​

The 144,000 are witnesses, who will be persecuted for Christ's sake, not rulers.

Satan fell before Man was placed in the Garden, along with one third of the hosts who also rebelled with him.

God's kingdom destroys nothing. Christ and his army of hosts destroys the armies gathered to destroy Israel and then turn against Christ and his army. The battle lasts one day, and nothing is left of the enemy soldiers, not even flesh for the carrion. The governments of man accept the authority of Christ as the ultimate King, as do all the peoples of earth (those with no human government as well as those under human government up to that point).

 

[mee]

The 144,000 are witnesses, who will be persecuted for Christ's sake, not rulers.

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yes they certainly have been ,and those still on the earth are persecuted for christs sake , they uphold christs kingship and make known the GOODNEWS of the kingdom matthew 24;14



but as the bible informs us the 144,000 will eventually be rulers with Jesus in the heavenly kingdom.

it is important to note here in the book of Daniel that the "son of man" is not to rule alone.

The Bible says: "And the kingdom and the rulership . . . were given to the people who are the holy ones of the Supreme One. Their kingdom is an indefinitely lasting kingdom." (Daniel 7:27) These expressions "the people" and "their kingdom" let us know that others will rule with Christ in God’s government.


On the last night that Jesus spent with his faithful 11 apostles he showed that they would be rulers with him in God’s kingdom. He told them: "You are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom." (Luke 22:28, 29)

Later, the apostle Paul and Timothy were included in this covenant, or agreement, for a kingdom.

For that reason Paul wrote Timothy: "If we go on enduring, we shall also rule together as kings." (2 Timothy 2:12)

Also, the apostle John wrote of those who will "rule as kings over the earth" along with Jesus Christ.—Revelation 5:9, 10; 20:6.



and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth revelation 5;9


Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.
revelation 20;6



So those who go to heaven go there to serve as joint rulers with Christ in God’s heavenly government.


Since they are to rule over the earth, it is clear that those who go to heaven will be tried and tested followers of Christ.


Jesus told his disciples: "Have no fear, little flock, because your Father has approved of giving you the kingdom."—Luke 12:32.


yes they are a little flock they are 144,000 in number


At Revelation 14:1, 3 the Bible says: "And I saw, and, look! the Lamb [Jesus Christ] standing upon the [heavenly] Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand . . . who have been bought [or, taken] from the earth.

Note that only 144,000 persons are seen with the Lamb, Jesus Christ, on heavenly Mount Zion. (Hebrews 12:22)

So rather than all good people going to heaven, the Bible reveals that only 144,000 tried and faithful persons will be taken there to rule with Christ.

 

[mee]

The governments of man accept the authority of Christ as the ultimate King, quote]

The kings of earth take their stand
And high officials themselves have massed together as one
Against Jehovah and against his anointed one, psalm 2;2 ​

And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. revelation 19;19



make no mistake they do not want to give up their rulerships .


but they will be CRUSHED.



And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will CRUSH and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; DANIEL 2;44

 

[mee]

God's kingdom destroys nothing. quote]


many people think many things ,but what does the bible inform us .


and in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; ............daniel 2;44

 

[Quahom1]

God's kingdom destroys nothing. quote]


many people think many things ,but what does the bible inform us .


and in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; ............daniel 2;44

Yep, glad you can see the errors of your ways...Makes my heart glad that you can finally see the folly of the elders you have taken to heart. I mean, to corrupt the bible like that...wow! To think that there is only one God, and his name is some goofy sounding thing. worse yet! to think that some would even consider taking the Divinity from Christ, and oh of course the audacity of declaring the Holy Spirit a non entitiy, but simply a force...kind of like the wind.

So glad you have figured the whole thing out Mee. Glad you see things differently. May the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit bless you and keep you safe.

v/r

Q

 

[mee]

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So glad you have figured the whole thing out Mee. Glad you see things differently.

v/r

Q

yes it it brings great joy to see what the bible really teaches and it brings me great joy to know that Jesus has been given great aurthority Daniel 7;13-14 and even though Jesus is ruling amidst his enemies he will come off victorious .

The rider of the white horse described at Revelation 6:2 proves to be the same as the rider of the white horse portrayed at Revelation 19:11-16.

In this latter reference his name is called "The Word of God," and on his thigh he wears the title "King of kings and Lord of lords." Here he is pictured as at the grand climax of his charge against his opponents, when he brings his ride to final victory at "the war of the great day of God the Almighty" on the battlefield of Har–Magedon, or Mountain of Megiddo. (Revelation 16:14-16; 19:17-21)


Unseen to human eyes, there then comes the binding of Satan the Devil and his demons for a thousand years of confinement in an abyss. (Revelation 20:1-3)

Blessed are our eyes to see by faith the ride of the crowned King on the "white horse" since the end of the Gentile Times in 1914.
Thrilled to my very soul at his conquests so far, i cry out, ‘Ride on, you royal rider on the white horse, to your matchless victory at Har–Magedon, for the vindication of the universal sovereignty of Jehovah God, the Giver of this prophetic "sign."’

What a crushing defeat for Satan and his organization! "For his part, the God who gives peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly." (Romans 16:20) The long-awaited time for peace is finally at hand.
How blessed the lot of all on earth who survive this great manifestation of Jehovah’s power! Soon afterward they will be joined by faithful men and women of the past whose appointed time for resurrection will have arrived. Christ’s Thousand Year Reign will truly be "a time to plant . . . , a time to heal . . . , a time to build . . . , a time to laugh . . . , a time to skip about . . . , a time to embrace and . . . a time to love." Yes, and it will everlastingly be "a time for peace"!—Ecclesiastes 3:1-8; Psalm 29:11; 37:11; 72:7.​

 

[mee]

when the Messianic kingdom of God was installed in heaven, there had to be a worldwide proclamation of that new government of the universe, for that was to be the government for doing away with all the imperfect Gentile governments of the earth and for giving the people a perfect government.



This had to be, not just to follow historical examples, but because Jesus the Messiah had long ago committed the Messianic kingdom of God to making such a worldwide proclamation.


when Jesus was on earth,after foretelling the rising of nation against nation and of kingdom against kingdom, (in World War I,) with hard times to follow, Jesus told his disciples:

"This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matt. 24:7-14)

Has God’s Messianic kingdom been having that done on earth since 1914? Have the Gentile nations been receiving this Kingdom witness? Yes!


yes the heavenly kingdom is now well established and Jesus is a reigning king of that heavenly kingdom Daniel 2;44 Daniel 7; 13-14 and it all happened in 1914 .

 

[Quahom1]

when the Messianic kingdom of God was installed in heaven, there had to be a worldwide proclamation of that new government of the universe, for that was to be the government for doing away with all the imperfect Gentile governments of the earth and for giving the people a perfect government.



This had to be, not just to follow historical examples, but because Jesus the Messiah had long ago committed the Messianic kingdom of God to making such a worldwide proclamation.


when Jesus was on earth,after foretelling the rising of nation against nation and of kingdom against kingdom, (in World War I,) with hard times to follow, Jesus told his disciples:

"This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matt. 24:7-14)

Has God’s Messianic kingdom been having that done on earth since 1914? Have the Gentile nations been receiving this Kingdom witness? Yes!


yes the heavenly kingdom is now well established and Jesus is a reigning king of that heavenly kingdom Daniel 2;44 Daniel 7; 13-14 and it all happened in 1914 .

Sorry, according to Revelation, it hasn't happened yet...but it will, on that we both agree.

You call the Holy Spirit a "Force" yet non entity, correct? Direct violation of Biblical scripture. Blatant violation of scripture. You have Blasphemed the Holy Spirit of God, and as such your "sin" is unforgivable...did you know that Mee? The Bible is specific on this issue. According to the Bible, you are going to Hell. Don't take my word for it dude. Look it up yourself. Anyone who knowingly Blasphemes the Holy Spirit of God, goes straight to the place you say doesn't exist.

Oh, I forgot, unless your elders allow, you can't look up anything that might contaminate your thinking...I feel so sorry for you. You can't even wipe your backside without permission.

Pity, you might find out that you have cancer in the early stages, and that could save your life, instead of you trying to capture as many converts as possible in order to secure your seat as one of the 144,000 priviliged "symbolic virgin Jewish males", who's religious beliefs you have absolutely no clue about. And what a statement that makes! All males? You mean women have no chance being part of the 144,000? But that is in direct conflict (AGAIN) with God in the Bible, who stated "I will make a Help Meet for Man" That is equal, in every way in the eyes of God.

Under normal conditions, I'd welcome your input as to your concept of God Mee. But the day you condemned Christians in general and trinitarians in particular, is the day I decided to show you the errors in your own faith. And you have a great deal of errors...

One can even question whether or not you are Christian. And it is all fair. And your fall back to the Bible doesn't hold water, since your quoted passages do not back up your claims, but rather back the claims of the rest of Christendom. Make up your mind. Bible/Watch Tower tracts. Can't serve two masters...

You will no longer disrupt Christian thinking on this forum with your cut and paste crap, sir. Nor will you call anyone else in error when you can't validate your own faith. That makes you just like the rest of us.

 

[mee]

yes ,there is great opposition to Gods kingdom that was established in the heavens in 1914 , but Jesus is the king of kings and all things are running smoothly . and now we are well along into bible prophecy , and the GOODNEWS about GODS KINGDOM is being made known for a witness,( or to put people on notice ) and yes it is very GOODNEWS indeed. matthew 24;14

 

[mee]

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So glad you have figured the whole thing out Mee.

v/r

Q

yes the bible reveals many good things

That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.PSALM 83;18 KJV

 

[Quahom1]

yes the bible reveals many good things

That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.PSALM 83;18 KJV

Your JEHOVAH, is nothing but an icon, called "Watch Tower".

There is nothing Christian about him/it. I'm truly sorry for you. Mainline Christianity is a "trinitarian" concept. Something you refuse to accept or can't understand. Suggest you post in Belief and Spirituality...