1914 ....A significant year in bible prophecy

Quahom1 said:
No, people are, with their amazing propogations, and takes on what is truth.

The only good thing I see in history about 1914, was the day a battle field stood still. And that happened on 24-25 December 1914. That in and of itself should send any JW through the roof...because it was "Christmas Day" that the war paused, and enemies became friends...if only for a day.

nice reminder.. thanks
 
Quahom1 said:
No, people are, with their amazing propogations, and takes on what is truth.

The only good thing I see in history about 1914, was the day a battle field stood still. And that happened on 24-25 December 1914. That in and of itself should send any JW through the roof...because it was "Christmas Day" that the war paused, and enemies became friends...if only for a day.
it will be a good thing when another bible prophecy comes to fullfillment,
And all your sons will be persons taught by Jehovah, and the peace of your sons will be abundant Isaiah 54;13 in fact this prophecy is right now working towards fullfillment .being taught by Jehovah means only learning peace . and he is gathering those who are willing to be taught by Jehovah
(Psalm 25:9) He will cause the meek ones to walk in [his] judicial decision, And he will teach the meek ones his way. .............Is it not a wonderful thought to know that in Jehovahs time the earth will never learn war anymore. but right now in these THE LAST DAYS Jehovah is teaching his people PEACE.
And it must occur in the FINAL PART OF THE DAYS [that] the mountain of the house of Jehovah will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, and it will certainly be lifted up above the hills; and to it all the nations must stream. 3 And many peoples will certainly go and say: "Come, YOU people, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will INSTRUCT us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths." For out of Zion law will go forth, and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. 4 And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore. ......................yes many from all nations are learning Jehovahs ways , they are coming out of all nations to be taught by Jehovah . yes the bible really is a most wonderful book of prophecy and it always comes true.
 
mee said:
it will be a good thing when another bible prophecy comes to fullfillment,
And all your sons will be persons taught by Jehovah, and the peace of your sons will be abundant Isaiah 54;13 in fact this prophecy is right now working towards fullfillment .being taught by Jehovah means only learning peace . and he is gathering those who are willing to be taught by Jehovah
(Psalm 25:9) He will cause the meek ones to walk in [his] judicial decision, And he will teach the meek ones his way. .............Is it not a wonderful thought to know that in Jehovahs time the earth will never learn war anymore. but right now in these THE LAST DAYS Jehovah is teaching his people PEACE.
And it must occur in the FINAL PART OF THE DAYS [that] the mountain of the house of Jehovah will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, and it will certainly be lifted up above the hills; and to it all the nations must stream. 3 And many peoples will certainly go and say: "Come, YOU people, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will INSTRUCT us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths." For out of Zion law will go forth, and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. 4 And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore. ......................yes many from all nations are learning Jehovahs ways , they are coming out of all nations to be taught by Jehovah . yes the bible really is a most wonderful book of prophecy and it always comes true.


Of course Mee. But there is not one prophecy in the bible that gives concrete dates as to when something will or will not happen. You know why? Because man is adjusting to God's will, so the timing is not set for His return. You know why that is? Because God wants as many humans as possible, to be around His table (not corralled in a pen called paradise).

I do understand there will come a time when God will close the door to the banquet hall. But it hasn't happened yet, and no one knows when it will happen.

I must also point out, that for humans to "determine" the time of God's arrival, or kingship places a limit on God Himself. Once man puts God on a time table, He is no longer Omnipresent. You do know this word Omnipresent?

My God is unfathomable. How about yours?
 
Quahom1 said:
Of course Mee. But there is not one prophecy in the bible that gives concrete dates as to when something will or will not happen. You know why? Because man is adjusting to God's will, so the timing is not set for His return. You know why that is? Because God wants as many humans as possible, to be around His table (not corralled in a pen called paradise).

I do understand there will come a time when God will close the door to the banquet hall. But it hasn't happened yet, and no one knows when it will happen.

I must also point out, that for humans to "determine" the time of God's arrival, or kingship places a limit on God Himself. Once man puts God on a time table, He is no longer Omnipresent. You do know this word Omnipresent?

My God is unfathomable. How about yours?
the timetable for Jesus to be given the legal right to the kingship was right on time according to bible prophecy and chronology. but the time for him to go into action regarding Judging the nations is for Jehovah to know. but NOW is the time to put ourselves in amongst the great crowd of sheep that Jesus is directing.
And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd. John 10;16yes these other sheep are not going to heaven like the little flock of 144,000, but they listen to Jesus voice , the same as the 144,000 do. regarding (omnipresent )Jehovah doent need to be on the earth his holy spirit or active force can
be extended from his fixed location to any place in the material universe
 
mee said:
the timetable for Jesus to be given the legal right to the kingship was right on time according to bible prophecy and chronology. but the time for him to go into action regarding Judging the nations is for Jehovah to know. but NOW is the time to put ourselves in amongst the great crowd of sheep that Jesus is directing.
And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd. John 10;16yes these other sheep are not going to heaven like the little flock of 144,000, but they listen to Jesus voice , the same as the 144,000 do. regarding (omnipresent )Jehovah doent need to be on the earth his holy spirit or active force can
be extended from his fixed location to any place in the material universe

...defeats the entire purpose of God, now doesn't it. The instant God is not somewhere, He no longer is God. In fact, Mee, He is no more powerful than Satan himself, who goes to and fro devouring what he can...but is not at all places at once.

Mee. What are you talking about? Because it is certainly not Christianity...
 
Quahom1 said:
...defeats the entire purpose of God, now doesn't it. The instant God is not somewhere, He no longer is God. In fact, Mee, He is no more powerful than Satan himself, who goes to and fro devouring what he can...but is not at all places at once.

Mee. What are you talking about? Because it is certainly not Christianity...

GOD is fittingly described as omnipotent and omniscient—almighty and all-knowing. Yet, when attempting further to describe God’s greatness, some add a third term—omnipresent. They believe that God is present everywhere simultaneously.​
While none of these descriptive terms are found in the Bible, the first two are clearly supported by Scriptural teachings. (Genesis 17:1; Hebrews 4:13; Revelation 11:17) God is indeed omnipotent, and he is omniscient in the sense that nothing can be hidden from him. But is he omnipresent? Is God everywhere, or is he a person with a specific dwelling place?
 
The actual nature of god the father keeps him in holy dominion, for outside of that all things would die from his glory. christ enables god to be personally with us, and he did walk with adam, sit with abraham, and walked among the people in jerusalem. the holy spirit enables christ and god to be with us as the spirit goes across the whole world looking for people god has called. looking at the world, christ has made all things, and all things are for the glory of god. when you see the beauty in every little thing, even in things of great destruction.. you see the power and beauty of god.
 
mee said:

But is he omnipresent? Is God everywhere, or is he a person with a specific dwelling place?​
Psalm 139:8
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Jeremiah 23:23,24
Am I a God at hand, saith the Lord, and not a God afar off? Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the Lord. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the Lord.
I Kings 8:27
But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?

Hmm my Bible shows he is omnipresent....Of course it also shows that about Jesus.:)
 
god sees all things, you cannot hide what you do or even your innermost thoughts from him.
 
mee said:

GOD is fittingly described as omnipotent and omniscient—almighty and all-knowing. Yet, when attempting further to describe God’s greatness, some add a third term—omnipresent. They believe that God is present everywhere simultaneously.​
While none of these descriptive terms are found in the Bible, the first two are clearly supported by Scriptural teachings. (Genesis 17:1; Hebrews 4:13; Revelation 11:17) God is indeed omnipotent, and he is omniscient in the sense that nothing can be hidden from him. But is he omnipresent? Is God everywhere, or is he a person with a specific dwelling place?

If God is not omnipresent my friend, when He wakes up from His dream of this universe, I pray He remembers me in His waking thoughts...

all else will evaporate from His "limited" mind...as they do from ours.

Mee, that is the second time you've implied the finite to the infinite...
 
Dor said:
Psalm 139:8
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
:)

Nothing can prevent Jehovah from having complete knowledge of his servants. No matter where they might go, God’s spirit would be active toward them. The psalmist declared: "Where can I go from your spirit, and where can I run away from your face? If I should ascend to heaven, there you would be; and if I should spread out my couch in Sheol, look! you would be there. Were I to take the wings of the dawn, that I might reside in the most remote sea, there, also, your own hand would lead me and your right hand would lay hold of me."—Ps. 139:7-10.​
Note that the psalmist spoke of God’s spirit in parallel with God’s face. Since God’s spirit or his active force can reach the remotest parts of the vast universe, no one can flee from the face of the Most High, that is, from his observation.
 
mee said:

Nothing can prevent Jehovah from having complete knowledge of his servants. No matter where they might go, God’s spirit would be active toward them. The psalmist declared: "Where can I go from your spirit, and where can I run away from your face? If I should ascend to heaven, there you would be; and if I should spread out my couch in Sheol, look! you would be there. Were I to take the wings of the dawn, that I might reside in the most remote sea, there, also, your own hand would lead me and your right hand would lay hold of me."—Ps. 139:7-10.​
Note that the psalmist spoke of God’s spirit in parallel with God’s face. Since God’s spirit or his active force can reach the remotest parts of the vast universe, no one can flee from the face of the Most High, that is, from his observation.

Sounds to me like an omnipresent God...:eek: :D
 
Quahom1 said:
Sounds to me like an omnipresent God...:eek: :D

(Psalm 33:13) From the heavens Jehovah has looked, He has seen all the sons of men.

(Psalm 102:19) For he has looked down from his holy height, From the very heavens Jehovah himself has looked even at the earth,​

(Psalm 11:4) Jehovah is in his holy temple. Jehovah—in the heavens is his throne. His own eyes behold, his own beaming eyes examine the sons of men.
 
mee said:


(Psalm 33:13) From the heavens Jehovah has looked, He has seen all the sons of men.

(Psalm 102:19) For he has looked down from his holy height, From the very heavens Jehovah himself has looked even at the earth,

(Psalm 11:4) Jehovah is in his holy temple. Jehovah—in the heavens is his throne. His own eyes behold, his own beaming eyes examine the sons of men.

Thank you for proving my point. God is omnipresent. We think alike there Mee. Good to know. :)
 
Quahom1 said:
Thank you for proving my point. God is omnipresent. We think alike there Mee. Good to know. :)
so he doesnt need to come down to earth .
 
Dor said:
Nope he did not need to at all.
He did it to save us wretched men.

Was a trip of love through desire not any need.

For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. John 3;16-17
(Romans 8:32) He who did not even spare his own Son but delivered him up for us all, why will he not also with him kindly give us all other things?.......yes Jehovah God loved the world so much that he sent forth his only-begotten son so we could have everlasting life .
 
mee said:

GOD is fittingly described as omnipotent and omniscient—almighty and all-knowing. Yet, when attempting further to describe God’s greatness, some add a third term—omnipresent. They believe that God is present everywhere simultaneously.​
While none of these descriptive terms are found in the Bible, the first two are clearly supported by Scriptural teachings. (Genesis 17:1; Hebrews 4:13; Revelation 11:17) God is indeed omnipotent, and he is omniscient in the sense that nothing can be hidden from him. But is he omnipresent? Is God everywhere, or is he a person with a specific dwelling place?


Psalm 139 is awesome it deals with all three omnis...and personalizes it for you so you can understand..

Look at His Omnipresence Psalm 139:7-12

Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend into heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the morning, And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, Even there Your hand shall lead me, And Your right hand shall hold me. If I say, "Surely the darkness shall fall on me," Even the night shall be light about me; Indeed, the darkness shall not hide from You, But the night shines as the day; The darkness and the light are both alike to You.

I love it.. Hes with me wherever I am.. Thank you God.
 
mee said:
so he doesnt need to come down to earth .

Nope. His Holy Spirit never left, which means He is here, now...lol

(we're never going to get it together, I think)
 
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