smoking

[China Cat Sunflower]

Has nothing to do with being cool. I am simply addicted... And it is the easiest and most comfortable route for myself... Like I see Juan constantly in here talking about how he is dealing with it and the mans suffering lol.... **** that, I am not going to put myself through it lol.

If I had known how hard it would be to quit I probably wouldn't have tried. I still enjoy God's good green herb, just had to let the tobacco go.

Chris

 

[nativeastral]

If I had known how hard it would be to quit I probably wouldn't have tried. I still enjoy God's good green herb, just had to let the tobacco go.

Chris

wow after reading the threads and your journey to baccy free heaven did you have to say that?! would love to give up but feel am never ready to commit 100% which l know is required [please lock me up for 3 months]; wouldn't want to be stoned all the time either which a lot of friends do. if you still have urges say what alan carr says 'what does it do for you? absolutely NOTHING'- worked for some but not me...yet. congratuations on your new healthy life

 

[China Cat Sunflower]

wow after reading the threads and your journey to baccy free heaven did you have to say that?! would love to give up but feel am never ready to commit 100% which l know is required [please lock me up for 3 months]; wouldn't want to be stoned all the time either which a lot of friends do. if you still have urges say what alan carr says 'what does it do for you? absolutely NOTHING'- worked for some but not me...yet. congratuations on your new healthy life

Hi. I have almost no will power. I don't think a person can give up something they haven't had their absolute fill of. In the end it wasn't the health benefits, even though I'd had a pretty bad smokers cough for five years or better, it was that I got so frickin' tired of being bent over for four bucks or better a pack in taxes.

Chris

 

[nativeastral]

yeh know what yu mean; was always a roller till l started studying again n wanted an instant puff without the mess haha, now l'm a raging pack fiend, helllishly addictive and as you say extortionate...this thread has invigorated my desire to stop...soon

 

[Penguin]

Rollies! I am on about 15 a day...

Never had the cafe cremes... They like cigars? Always been curious about those metal lil tins.

What tobacco do you smoke and what colour papers? I need to know
Yes cigars, but the filter aroma's have filters in them and are very mild with a slight cherry essence. They are miniture cigars, very pomp and ponsy which is why I smoke them of course! The cafe creme mild (blue tin) and the cafe creme gold (yellow tin - strong) are very course and ropey, they have no filters and are miniture cigars. All 3 types come in 10's in those little tins. If you try them select the filter aroma, you'll like them. In fact go and buy some today!

 

[mee]

As early as 1942, when smoking was still viewed as fashionable,
THE WATCHTOWER MAG
helped its readers to see that using tobacco violates Bible principles and should be shunned.

An article published that year reasoned that those who want to please God must follow the Bible’s command to "cleanse [themselves] of every defilement of flesh and spirit." (2 Corinthians 7:1)
Now, in 2009 has not this Bible-based advice proved sensible?



I think it did because now everyone knows how harmful it is.


yes that mag was for JEHOVAHS PEOPLE and the most high JEHOVAH likes his people to be nice and clean in more ways than one.


GOOD DIRECTION it was to listen to the channel that JESUS is feeding matthew 24;45-47

 

[Penguin]

I need a cigar whilst I think about that I think.

 

[mee]

I need a cigar whilst I think about that I think.

thinking is good, but that smoke may cloud your thoughts

 

[17th Angel]

What tobacco do you smoke and what colour papers? I need to know
Yes cigars, but the filter aroma's have filters in them and are very mild with a slight cherry essence. They are miniture cigars, very pomp and ponsy which is why I smoke them of course! The cafe creme mild (blue tin) and the cafe creme gold (yellow tin - strong) are very course and ropey, they have no filters and are miniture cigars. All 3 types come in 10's in those little tins. If you try them select the filter aroma, you'll like them. In fact go and buy some today!

Sweet, will give them ago lol... What baci? I smoke Golden Virginia and tend to use Silver Rizlas.... But Green will do, and when ever I get the chance I buy ZigZag but they are not so common.

Cherry cigars... Now that sounds splended!! I went through a stage when I was like 14 to about 16 whrere me and a friend used to visit a tobbacco bar on the weekends and bought many flavoured bacci's they came in so many different flavours... Aaah, yeah that was the days lol

I need a cigar whilst I think about that I think.

lulz.

 

[juantoo3]

Like I see Juan constantly in here talking about how he is dealing with it and the mans suffering lol....

Constantly? Gads, this is the first I've checked this thread in two months...oh yeah, that's really constant...

I don't know how to tell you this, but, when it comes to suffering, I might have some other issues going on. The effects of smoking might only be complicating the issue. Like China Cat, it was simply time for me. And *real* men can handle a little suffering...

Shouldn't it be really close to a year now? I don't know the date I quit (deliberately), but it shoulda been somewhere around this time last year...

 

[juantoo3]

If I had known how hard it would be to quit I probably wouldn't have tried. I still enjoy God's good green herb, just had to let the tobacco go.

As much as the herb would probably help my situation, I'm too paranoid of getting caught around here. It's not like California, they don't play nice here.

So when I said cold turkey, I really meant cold turkey. I haven't smoked so much as a sausage since I laid 'em down. The trouble is, in the back of my mind I still want to pick 'em up. Some old friends came back into town last week, and I felt that ol' urge...didn't give in, this time, yet...there's always next time to consider.

But I think if some herb happened my way I would just have to reconsider, if only for a moment...

 

[Paladin]

As much as the herb would probably help my situation, I'm too paranoid of getting caught around here. It's not like California, they don't play nice here.

So when I said cold turkey, I really meant cold turkey. I haven't smoked so much as a sausage since I laid 'em down. The trouble is, in the back of my mind I still want to pick 'em up. Some old friends came back into town last week, and I felt that ol' urge...didn't give in, this time, yet...there's always next time to consider.

But I think if some herb happened my way I would just have to reconsider, if only for a moment...

Um... I uh, know a guy that could help you out
But it would make you feel like lighting up right after you know.



It has been about 6 or 7 years since I quit and every now and then I think how a nice cigar would taste, but then I remember how much I'm enjoying my breathing now, the way my clothes don't smell of stale smoke.

 

[China Cat Sunflower]

Hi Mark. My friend Tom quit a year and a half ago, but he picked up the cigar habit. He has one when he golfs sometimes. Cigars gag me. Plus, I didn't want to do anything to feed the monkey whilst I was trying to dislodge his claws from my back, so to speak.

I feel like a bad ass for having successfully quit. Seriously, this ranks up there with my best achievements.

Chris

 

[China Cat Sunflower]

As much as the herb would probably help my situation, I'm too paranoid of getting caught around here. It's not like California, they don't play nice here.

So when I said cold turkey, I really meant cold turkey. I haven't smoked so much as a sausage since I laid 'em down. The trouble is, in the back of my mind I still want to pick 'em up. Some old friends came back into town last week, and I felt that ol' urge...didn't give in, this time, yet...there's always next time to consider.

But I think if some herb happened my way I would just have to reconsider, if only for a moment...

I had three vices, and now I have two. I still like weed and Beaujolais. Like a nice Pinot as well. I lived on coffee and cigarettes for a long time. I don't want to look like one of those brown and white photo portraits of a dust bowl farmer. Middle age sucks. I can feel those young men creeping up behind. Good thing I'm wise.

Chris

 

[juantoo3]

I feel like a bad ass for having successfully quit. Seriously, this ranks up there with my best achievements.

Just be careful. I've poisoned myself with that antidote in the past. Without exception, everytime I get to bragging on myself something would make me stumble. I've learned to be a bit more forgiving, of myself in this regard and others by extension, but its a tough lesson to go through.

 

[juantoo3]

I lived on coffee and cigarettes for a long time. I don't want to look like one of those brown and white photo portraits of a dust bowl farmer. Middle age sucks. I can feel those young men creeping up behind. Good thing I'm wise.

I know exactly what you mean. But I think I'll save the self assessment of wisdom for the end, that's a trumpet I'll let another blow. I make no bones about pursuing wisdom, but I'm nowhere near ready to call myself "wise."

 

[Paladin]

I know exactly what you mean. But I think I'll save the self assessment of wisdom for the end, that's a trumpet I'll let another blow. I make no bones about pursuing wisdom, but I'm nowhere near ready to call myself "wise."

Much like Gardner's multiple intelligences, I think there may be multiple wisdom modes as well. Therefore, I would volunteer to stand up and call you wise.

The whole quitting smoking thing taught me much about how the brain works in relation to habitualization. My wife (saint that she is) works in the psych ward at a local hospital here, and tells me tales of people coming off opiates and other drugs, including alcohol.

Anyone who has any time away from their addiction can feel good about it, but as you say, being forgiving of relapse is a wise course. Indeed being forgiving of human behaviors at all is one of the foundations of wisdom.

I know I have mentioned this before, but there exists a certain ghost like quality in any addiction. In ones "peripheral vision" so to speak, the cravings can be maddening, but seen straight on, they tend to dissipate like morning mist.

 

[juantoo3]

Much like Gardner's multiple intelligences, I think there may be multiple wisdom modes as well. Therefore, I would volunteer to stand up and call you wise.

You humble me, sir. Thank you.

I have heard allusion to this you linked to in the past, I wasn't aware of the formal study. It might make a good little reference thread unto itself.

The whole quitting smoking thing taught me much about how the brain works in relation to habitualization. My wife (saint that she is) works in the psych ward at a local hospital here, and tells me tales of people coming off opiates and other drugs, including alcohol.

Your wife gets a second vote from me for sainthood if she has the intestinal fortitude to work with psych patients.

Anyone who has any time away from their addiction can feel good about it, but as you say, being forgiving of relapse is a wise course. Indeed being forgiving of human behaviors at all is one of the foundations of wisdom.

My "quitting" has been an extremely long process, not always deliberate. There have been and still are ebbs and flows. Willpower is another word for masochistic tendencies, in my experience. Through it all I've come to realize that "my" strength is not actually mine...if you get my drift. That's why "I" can't take the credit.

Now, that may sound hokey to some, be that as it may. Whenever I made it a matter of "me," I failed...miserably. No matter the logic, no matter the planning and timing, no matter all the little games and tricks I played...I always goofed up...and then beat myself up for goofing up. And even when I used goofing up to rally the troops and try again...I still stumbled which made me beat myself up even more.

This time I tried a bit different tack, so far it seems to be working, and it has so far worked the longest. But I have deliberately removed the focus away from "self." It's not about "me" conquering anything...its simply time to set them aside. Maybe I'll pick one up some other day, maybe I'll even start smoking again. I hope not, but it is a possibility, and it is one I think I am a little better able to deal with now after having beaten my ego into a bloody pulp. This time I didn't tell anybody I was quitting, I didn't lay down any gauntlets, I didn't draw any lines in the sand...I don't even remember what day it was!

I know I have mentioned this before, but there exists a certain ghost like quality in any addiction. In ones "peripheral vision" so to speak, the cravings can be maddening, but seen straight on, they tend to dissipate like morning mist.

I like that. It reminds me of "get thee behind me, satan."

 

[China Cat Sunflower]

I know exactly what you mean. But I think I'll save the self assessment of wisdom for the end, that's a trumpet I'll let another blow. I make no bones about pursuing wisdom, but I'm nowhere near ready to call myself "wise."

Well, I just meant that I'm wise to what the young chaps are doing. You may recall that we talked about my superstitious fear of being smacked down for presumption earlier in this thread. I understand about pride going before a fall, but at this time I feel triumphant, victorious, and righteously confident. I think that one has to allow for victory too. Why not revel in the humanity of that as well?

Chris

 

[Paladin]

Yes! Why not? You go Chris