Ciel
in essence
How about...No doubt, no awakening, because already awake.
Doubt as something outside the self, full of comparisons.......
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Doubt as something outside the self, full of comparisons.......
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Because ... you left it open enough for us to interpret the question (and specifically, Who or What `G-d' is) for ourselves.I'm really curious to know how some of you are voting 100%. That is what really interests me. How can you be so damned sure?
How about...No doubt, no awakening, because already awake.
Doubt as something outside the self, full of comparisons.......
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This is along the lines of what I was trying to say. I mean, I can see that Something makes Life possible. In my experience, the "faith factor" is trusting in the character of of that "Something".![]()
Good to see you back around Paladin!I wonder if a companion poll would be necessary here. One that read: How confident are you that you understand That-Which-Is.![]()
Wow, Sunny, I think you just summed up that silly epic post of mine. Even shorter, it's -That sounds nice, but... doubt is an important component of critical thinking. Measure twice, cut once, that's useful doubt in action. I suppose in a non-physical environment, like some supremely enlightened state, there's no use for doubt. But down here on earth we need doubt in almost everything we do. I doubt that this is all there is to God would be a good mantra, I think.
That sounds nice, but... doubt is an important component of critical thinking. Measure twice, cut once, that's useful doubt in action. I suppose in a non-physical environment, like some supremely enlightened state, there's no use for doubt. But down here on earth we need doubt in almost everything we do. I doubt that this is all there is to God would be a good mantra, I think.
I wonder if a companion poll would be necessary here. One that read: How confident are you that you understand That-Which-Is.![]()
Doesn't this beg the question - Whom or what is `G-d?'We could probably take it one step further... Do you have a personal relationship with God?![]()
Doesn't this beg the question - Whom or what is `G-d?'
Such a poll only becomes useful, imho, if we insert the phrase "Do you feel" in front of the question.
Other polls might explore just how people of different faiths understand, or conceptualize, God ... but if what we're asking is essentially - how strong, or "sound" do you feel your relationship with the Divine (is), then I think the word choice truly goes beyond - semantics.
Just a thought ...
I am 99% sure that there exists a Divine Source of some type. That remaining 1% of doubt is to remind myself to think for myself. Doubt makes a fine mistress, but a horrible wife.
Hi Sunny C,
This place of no doubt.
It's in the very balance between the enlightenment and the physical environment, the interior and exterior overview where critical thought is not the main component.
Certainty where God is concerned merits love and trust, and as we move
along and through this path of life is found experience. The Is of the Is.
It is peace.
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I was expecting a 0% from you, 17th. I thought you didn't believe in God.
AndrewX said:The one, the latter view, tends to focus on God, the Transcendent, and I am 100% confident that such exist(s). Yet because of my comparative religious studies, and my belief that John 1:1-4 is directly equivalent to the Sri Isopanishad ... I also "believe" in - a God Immanent, though I also have 100% confidence in this Presence, just as in God Transcendent (for the two are in reality, One).
AndrewX said:`G-d' to me suggests, in fact, a plurality of Beings - from quite an exalted state, right down to the myriad, microscopic lesser lives that literally compose every single form in the material world(s) - and I do not picture a sort of Judeo-Christian, Jehovah-God, with the long, flowing white beard, sitting enthroned among the clouds ... yet this does not mean that God is any less "real" to me.
AndrewX said:Yes, we know (or are told) that Moses beheld the Lord G-d via the burning bush, and I notice, Dondi, that this is just the sort of thing that some of tend to believe would convince us - 100% - that indeed, there is (a) G-d. I suspect that it's not quite this simple, however, and that - in fact - the burning bush (though symbolic) would not "do it" for us, in terms of getting us to 100%.
We could probably take it one step further... Do you have a personal relationship with God?![]()